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Mining is not very profitable at June 2024 prices. However, the consistency of the payouts for an XMR miner are clear. Examine the graphic, "Monero XMR Mining Profits", for an example of a five computer P2Pool cluster mining XMR with one of the machines hosting the full Monero blockchain and a mining
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This wording is misleading as it suggests that BitMonero was an entirely new creation. In reality, BitMonero was a fork of Bytecoin, which was the first implementation of the CryptoNote protocol (sometimes referred to as one of the first, despite being created two years before any fork, three if you
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I noticed above on this talk page that you implemented a change that you had also proposed. I think due to your COI you should probably wait for another editor to do that. Next, relating to this content in question, we can simply remove it. We dont need to have everything about Monero on this
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The following addition to the Mining section did not seem particularly relevant. It references a arbitrary point in time and over generalizes a specific yet anecdotal case. It also lacks any references. I have removed it, but would encourage more content regarding mining.
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section are inappropriate, or why you think that wording was not an appropriate summary of the body. As I said, being a dead link doesn't even make a source unreliable, much less justify ignoring multiple other sources already cited in the article.
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Thanks for the review, I already included better resource needed template, all the information is verifiable from Kraken's official website however they didn't include information about when they delisted.
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added source from Yahoo Finance, it mentions about dynamic block size but it doesn't explain how it exactly works, I think we can include both primary and secondary source. (Like the book added before.)
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that discusses this? In the case of cryptocurrency articles, it would be a book, a mainstream newspaper (fortune, wsj, bloomberg, etc), and cant be a contributor news piece, a blog, reddit, etc. Thanks!
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means. Since you do not have consensus to remove this content, I am restoring the status quo wording. The onus is on you to change the status quo. You could do this by explaining why sources used in the
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Further, the sentence immediately after the one you cut no longer makes sense. You can cut the dead source if you want, but you do not have consensus to remove this content from the lead.
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Block reward is one of the important property of cryptocurrencies, I think we shouldn't remove it. Also I noticed other cryptocurrency pages doesn't include citation, is that problem?
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This is a general audience encyclopedia, and over-relying on primary sources to provide technical details is unlikely to help readers get a better understanding of the larger topic.
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This is somewhat inaccurate. The original concept of CryptoNote was described in version 1.0 of the white paper in 2012, while the 2013 reference corresponds to version 2.0.
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Also note that Yahoo! and MSN often republish work from other outlets, including unreliable outlets. Being republished in this way doesn't make a source any more reliable.
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Regarding the third paragraph - "It is used in illicit activities such as money laundering, darknet markets, ransomware, cryptojacking, and other organized crime."
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to find dead sources. Maybe you can find it if the content is important to you. We are not doing unsourced content in crypto articles, you are aware of that.
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Hi, there's no way (or near to no way) to WSJ, NYT and Bloomberg would publish article about Monero has dynamic block size algorithm. Please be realistic.
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I also provided sources from a blockchain explorer that everybody can verify it. You can also use different blockchain explorer service or use your own.
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I have noticed a significant gap in the background information of the Monero article. Furthermore, there is a misrepresentation regarding its origins.
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Its non-controversial content. I was just noting you probably should wait for others. Not a big deal on that edit in question about block reward.
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The problem is current source doesn't mention block rewards can be less than 0.6 but it mentions dynamic block size (which is about block reward).
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on cryptocurrency articles. We are only using mainstream sources, such as wsj, nyt, bloomberg, etc. Crypo-zines, binance, etc are not RS. Thanks!
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Please stick to reliable, independent sources. If something is not explained by reliable sources, it may not even belong in the article at all.
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First 2 sources may count as contributor sources however its also possible to verify this fact using a blockchain explorer, for an example:
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count development before genesis). The critical point is that BitMonero was not coded from scratch but was based on Bytecoin's codebase.
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pool daemon (P2Pool). These older consumer model systems are almost paying for their electrical needs in a quite predictable manner.
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If current proposed changes are not OK I can rewrite without dates included. In this case only Kraken would be used as source.
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I have to agree with this point. I checked the source, and it was also a dead link. So i removed it for now. Thanks!
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https://masteringmonero.com/book/Mastering%20Monero%20First%20Edition%20by%20SerHack%20and%20Monero%20Community.pdf
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How we can fix this issue? That's why I wanted to add this technical details in addition to the secondary source.
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https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11283/can-someone-help-me-understand-the-dynamic-block-size-in-monero
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Because Monero has dynamic block size, which makes block reward is not always 0.6, sometimes it can be less.
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This isn't a valid point, it's just the usual whataboutism we always see with cryptocurrency articles.
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Please pay closer attention to what I am saying. The sources are already in the article. That's what
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has 6.967 XMR - 0.211 XMR less than full reward because of dynamic block size and penalty system.
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Good call. The chart is visual spam, also. Any info on mining would, as always, require a
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How aren't other cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies also used in illicit activities?
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https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf#subsection.7.3.3
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Being a dead link is not a justification for whitewashing the article, per
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by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
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partially done by adding to info box like I added to Litecoin.
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by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
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https://www.binance.com/en/research/analysis/monero-hard-fork
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Neither Reddit nor Cointelegraph are reliable sources.
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