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50: 32: 456:, which lists "masterpiece" as a synonym, but it would be excessive to expect that most editors would make such a link. Accordingly, I will strikeover my "Oppose" vote and cast a "Support" vote. Perhaps the finer distinctions between the two terms may be touched upon at some point in the 261:. Not the same meaning. A writer, painter or sculptor may produce several masterpieces during a lifetime of creative endeavor. The choice, however, of a single one of such works as the creator's magnum opus, meaning chief work or greatest work, may not be amenable to consensus. 327:
As you point out, there are nuances. Both "masterpiece" and "magnum opus" may be "considered the greatest work of a person's career", but these terms are not synonymous and must be taken in context. Numerous examples may be presented — no one will argue that
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is Proust's magnum opus and his masterpiece. However, when the names of other creative geniuses are invoked, the choices become less clear. Two of the most obvious examples, da Vinci and Michelangelo, created a number of masterpieces, but is
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are his secondary masterpieces? Does the term "magnum opus" permit the inclusion of more than a single work and wouldn't such an inclusion contradict its very meaning? All of these indeterminacies need to be examined before arriving at a
399:'s magnum opus is, thankfully, not our job. What's important here is what's good for the encyclopedia. When an article links to the phrase "magnum opus" (and there are 412: 188: 76: 534: 72: 57: 37: 242: 123:
Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
343: 298:(emphasis mine). I believe this accurately represents the way the word "masterpiece" is used: "That building was her masterpiece." — 353: 142: 445: 158: 506: 166: 114: 62: 246: 516: 124: 492: 465: 375: 365: 266: 348: 330: 407:), or should the link go directly to that article, thereby saving editors' time and energy? Or should 403:), should the link go to this dab page and then have to be disambiguated (most likely with a pipe to 359: 173:, as the primary topic. The more minor uses of the term should remain listed at the dab page. Then a 139: 225: 488: 461: 424: 386: 371: 303: 281: 262: 200: 177: 496: 469: 428: 379: 307: 270: 250: 229: 204: 147: 136: 453: 17: 221: 528: 435: 420: 322: 299: 196: 440:
I appreciate the encyclopedic Wiki-dilemma you have delineated — there are separate
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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be a stand-alone article? That was tried in the past, but the article was
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especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career
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that resulted in the reverse move; however, the issue there was an
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is clearly the article for the primary meaning of the term and
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There are nuances of meaning, yes. But the first sentence of
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is a masterpiece and there's clearly a primary topic here.
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pages on Knowledge (XXG). If you wish to help, you can
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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