Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe/Archive 15

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to the (now clearly contested) POV that these series are part of the MCU without providing the word from Kevin Feige himself that says that they’re not. It’s clear from Favre’s edit that nobody here actually opposes, as they’ve previously said, taking Feige’s words to mean that those series aren’t in the MCU, as Favre’s phrasing says that the “Sacred Timeline” (Feige also uses the phrase MCU to distinguish the projects included from the others) is considered by Feige to only apply to phases 1-4 of content produced by Marvel Studios. We agree in concept, the other shows are not in the MCU. What we cannot agree on, and what it seems the taskforce has trouble with, is just how visible that information should be. The taskforce wants it excluded from the pages of every single project page that says the project is in the MCU even though Feige clearly says here that it isn’t the case.

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making mine that suddenly don't arise for similar components of this edit, which gives me ownership concerns. My bigger issue is NPOV. This edit is being limited strictly to a couple of pages. It does not make sense to me why this is, given that it seems to concede that Feige's remark applies to the Marvel Television shows (when that was somehow contested before when it came to my edit) and there are a lot of pages that have relevant "Marvel Cinematic Universe tie-ins" sections that only feature sources implying affirmatively that they are in the MCU. If the objection to putting this quote on those pages was that we don't know that it applies to them, well it's clear that a majority of the people now

2956:" This is an opinion and not a concrete fact, let alone a confirmation from the co-author or from Feige himself, and yet another blog site interpretation of Feige's statement. We are not going to rehash past MCU multiverse discussions here, to save everyone's time and to not deter from the actual focus of these concurrent discussions. We take Feige's statement word for word, without spinning it one way or another. We go by the sources, not opinions or perspectives, which differ among such large fanbases. None of the content presently included in the MCU articles as officially recognized MCU content will be removed, regardless of what some may want to interpret or push for. 3512:. This information is not just relevant to the television shows as a collective entity, but to each individual one, especially if we're trying to note their "tie-ins" to the MCU on their page. It's worth noting that shows weren't included in the timeline. The edit I make suffices perfectly because it never claims Feige says anything about a particular show or an "alternative timeline", it notes that the show was omitted and states precisely why it was. This outcome blocks relevant information from going on individual pages and considering the blatant manipulation and SYNTH going on from particular users like Trailblazer, I don't think the phrasing here is appropriate. 3077:

have made very clear they wish to honor. But in the canon, the quote unfortunately does mean that the timeline covered in the book represents the entirety of the Sacred Timeline. Other projects are canon to Marvel, which I'm not equating with the MCU. I am acknowledging that perhaps we really do need to change our approach to MCU and not MCU down the line, but I'm not ready for any discussion like that today. What I am saying today is that the shows "created by different storytellers during different periods of Marvel's history" are not part of the MCU's sacred timeline, that is how he phrased it. And hey, neither is What If...? but that

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up yet. otherwise, what I was talking about before, was the point out how negligence Knowledge is to follow up on what's out there in the public eye already. what my brother and I have done for Bennett Colorado has been public record for some time now and you refuse to recognize that. It's been in the public high since 1998. that was my point with that The book is out been out for some time now, and what we did for Ben of Colorado has been out for even longer. get with it times.

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readers to the header dubbed "First 10 Years" with more details over a one-liner in Literary material. I don't think Marvel Studios#Logo or the IMAX anniversary festival are that necessary targets given "First 10 Years" is never used at those. If creating a dedicated 10th anniversary section would help quell concerns, that could be a viable option, especially since the Hasbro toyline and the magazine special, among others, are not discussed in this article.

31: 2776:"On the Multiverse note, we recognize that there are stories—movies and series that are canonical to Marvel but were created by different storytellers during different periods of Marvel's history. The timeline presented in this book is specific to the MCU's Sacred Timeline through Phase 4. But, as we move forward and dive deeper into the Multiverse Saga, you never know when timelines may just crash or converge (hint, hint/spoiler alert)." 785: 4967: 4802: 4543:

mean that it couldn't have taken any longer than that. There is other material out there that says that it takes Ivan about a year to construct what he made. He's not as intuitive as Tony, he didn't have all the proper tools to do it and he didn't have a masters in quantum mechanics or anything like that like Tony did. it could have very well taken him a year to figure it all out.

1270:, as well. I could see a wikibox of releases be a useful tool on the side of the content sections, although I'm not too certain it would be necessary as we denote the years of each release in order in their sections per what group they are in. Such a wikibox would be rather long and continue to increase in length as more content releases, some of which have overlapped. 3866:. It stands to reason that we should possibly incorporate the quote about storytellers during other eras of Marvel to illustrate what is not canon rather than just to say "x was omitted". It's helpful to note that something like Inhumans was omitted, as that is important information, but to delineate what is and isn't part of the sacred timeline, it doesn't suffice. 1171:. At that time, we'll be able to have sources for its placement in the timeline navigation box. Guardians is noted as being set after the Holiday Special with that information, although we do not yet know what year it is in for the timeline. The movie just came out so it will be a while before sources gather information to make such a determination. 1018: 2128:, and while that was reverted because it appeared they were doing that to many articles with no rhyme or reason, this article is getting lengthy with readable prose. So I felt it was a good idea to restart this discussion about possibly splitting the timeline section off because it currently is one of the larger sections here. - 466:. Any dialogue Jen and Emil have next regarding the fighting will probably provide more info, but I took it that the leaked footage wasn't happening "right" then, but that someone leaked it knowing he was up for parole. That's my own personal interpretation, which means the Disney+ placement isn't necessarily wrong. - 2188:? Yes, there was a book with that title, but this was also the name of the decennial celebration as a whole, as well as an IMAX festival, a magazine special, and a bunch of other things. It doesn't seem there's a dedicated section for the 10th anniversary, but it feels more appropriate to point the redirect to just 3862:. I think they're more than allowed. I think my proposed edit isn't original research, either, but it needs more satisfactory language in order to be implemented. I think Favre's version is right to specify what kind of content is part of the MCU, but Feige speaks more clearly to the kind of content that is 4466:

Your Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline is wrong. The order is right but some of the years aren't. If you want proof go buy the timeline book and find out for yourself. You're making yourself look like a fool not having it right when everyone expects you to. I'd give you the right years that you need

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I think there should be a version that blends the original and Favre's version, as both of them are a bit choppy and Favre's version implies that things were stated in the foreward that were not. (Feige does not say only content produced by them is part of the Sacred Timeline, he says the contents of

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suggests that if a consensus is not reached due to well-reasoned objections based on Knowledge policy (I oppose to this edit on the basis of WP:OWNERSHIP and WP:NPOV), it can be seeked through arbitration. This is absolutely against NPOV because we are giving undue weight on the individual wiki pages

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Should we add Yondu Udonta in the Recurring casts and characters list? He has been named main cast in three MCU projects. I know that it also requires to be main cast for two franchises and he has been man cast for the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, but does it count for the television special as

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none of those were produced by Marvel Studios and their placement in the MCU is questionable at best. Daredevil and Fisk may well be multiverse versions of those characters, it’s too soon to tell. And it’s certainly far too soon to tell if the MCU’s Deadpool will have any connection to the Fox films.

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forgive me, the book has been out for a long time now. there's been plenty of time to figure it out, I've had time to figure it out 10 times over myself with the book. I've already posted it in a couple of different spots personally myself, so I'm very surprised to see that Knowledge doesn't have it

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I have had my words misrepresented with the clear purpose of preventing me from introducing an edit. The party that has done this has completely thrown out the principles he stood upon in his false accusations against me and how I conducted my edit to support this one. I take issue with that for the

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You’re doing a remarkably bad job at taking it word for word. 1) Feige says the non-included series by other storytellers are not part of the sacred timeline. There is no credible alternative interpretation. 2) Nerdist is in fact a reputable source. 3) Some listed content on the MCU pages have never

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NWH did establish though that Tobey and Andrew’s films and the SSU exist in the MCU multiverse. That’s all we have though. Additionally some Marvel Television stuff has been stated to be adjacent to the MCU or in a separate universe as stated by those shows’ creators. Deadpool 3 should hopefully tie

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All of the articles on it do not specify which Marvel unit is working on it, and both Marvel Entertainment and Marvel Studios posted the announcement on their social media accounts. I'm not sure it should be included in this article as I have not seen sources state it was for the MCU, but rather for

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My rationale for changing the redirect to the First 10 Years timeline is because it has the most information on the contents of the book with the timeline information. While the Literary material section does include other little details such as the authors, I figured it would be beneficial to guide

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Most of those are independent situations with their own circumstances that are discussed and covered at the individual articles they pertain to. Not every decision to no longer work with an actor needs to be documented in this article alone. We already cover some details in the "Business practices"

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All Gunn has said is that he is unaware of any Marvel timeline keeper and never spoke to anyone about that. I'm not sure him saying "But I guess that’s why I think Vol 3 is now and everyone keeps saying 2030 or something" is a worthwhile inclusion or any direct confirmation of a differing timeline.

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I believe it is clear that the Timeline section is for in-universe information via the "As depicted in the MCU" header. If that's not the case, then we can add to the note to clarify this is for the in-universe timeline of events. I have seen wikiboxes for timeline of releases for video game series

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This is the same crap I got from you whenever I tried to talk to you guys about what my brother and I did for the town that we went to high school noon. you wouldn't listen whenever me and the whole entire school of the year 1998 can corroborate it. do you take anyone's advice on anything or maybe

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actually if you paid attention, that is not correct. what happens after Ivan is done with his suit takes place 6 months later. it was never specifically told how long it took for him to make his suit. Yes, there may have been some articles on the wall while he was making his suit, but that doesn't

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Noted, Gonnym. But objectively speaking, consensus has not been reached. This is not a matter of personal preference but policy concern. The current popular vote (again, Knowledge is not a democracy) does not address important wiki policy concerns. I have highlighted them and strongly encourage we

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consensus for the content to be added. While you made your objections clear, your peers deemed them less convincing. You can continue on your crusade and get more editors here, but reverting edits will mean edit warring. Just consider that before you continue on. Let the above editors I pinged add

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I hope you realize I'm not saying that they're not MCU. I think that with something like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., it's clear that the intention was there for it to be, and for a time it was affirmed as being such. It's definitely within the brand of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which editors here

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The draft is so we can map out a potential split, which I don't think should be anything imminent at all. It's just a natural progression so the information can be compiled and refined if the article (inevitably) becomes excessive with its coverage. I still think the updated timeline will change a

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That shared universe is only intended and does not exist yet. Only one film released for it with another and one series currently in some stages of production. It's too early for inclusion, plus not everything needs to be noted here as there is not a direct connection between the MCU and what Matt

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It may ultimately be appropriate for the Marvel Studios page, not here, because we should consider the what the documentary actually covers as well. If there is only passing mentions of his cameos in the MCU, but the main focus is on him, his life, and his comic work, this is not the right article

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What ZooBlazer mentioned, primarily, but I've also highlighted my concerns in accordance with wiki policy. The agreement is basically a very much watered down version of my own completely factual edit, which I don't particularly mind other than the uncharitable accusations thrown at me when I was

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films are part of the MCU multiverse. Marvel Comics did this in 2008 when they explicitly declared that the MCU was part of the comics multiverse, but notice how Marvel Studios has not acknowledged that the MCU is part of the comics multiverse. It doesn't work both ways; as you said, Sony can say

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ATSV’s stuff is a mess because Sony does what Sony wants and that Collider article appears to fill in blanks not officially stated. As for the source close to the book, I’m not sure how that will work considering they also could’ve filled blanks in. As for Nexus’s claim, the film all but confirms

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There are other articles/wikis etc. out there that can provide an interested reader with watch orders. We even include one such one ourselves in the Disney+ order section (with Disney+ being another tool readers can use). But for the purposes of this encyclopedia, where the timeline infograph is

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As to where this needs to be stated, since Feige doesn't call out any one specific film or TV project and it is third-party refs who are cherry-picking which projects this makes "non-canon", we should not be placing this info on individual pages. I think there's validity to its inclusion on the

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Unless we have a source or direct details from the book which contextualize the relation of these other Marvel properties and the Sacred Timeline, we cannot insert Feige's quote on whichever article we so please and spin a narrative of non-canonicity to any degree, as that is not what Feige has

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timeline chart would get slightly longer and the paragraph on the Disney+ timeline would get slightly larger, but that's it). We would need more discussion in the "codifying attempts" subsection and more reception-style info from commentators discussing the timeline to justify the split, imo. -

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well I'm not sure if it was you or someone else from Knowledge, but at one point I put something up on Bennett Colorado on here that talked about my brother and I saving the school there from vandalism and it was taken down because I couldn't corroborate it because it happened back in 1998 and

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I agree that any article like this should be structured pretty similarly to the current section, but I think it is too early for such a split. The article would not be that big, and even if we added all of the known projects to it over the next few years it would still not get much bigger (the

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We do state what the head of the studio is quoted as saying because it is more concrete and official than reliable secondary sources' own interpretations of it are, as those often speculate on this matter, which should be avoided in this context. We are not introducing speculations or our own

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on Disney+ with the release of the book should be noted, since there is a paragraph that reads "In November 2022, Bacon noted how Far From Home's appearance in the Disney+ timeline between The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Shang-Chi could not be correct given story points in each of those

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article, Marvel Studios' animation division is called "Marvel Studios Animation". And not like other times were it saud "Marvel Studios Animation Panel" or "Marvel Studios Animation Announcements". Its just "Marvel Studios Animation". Seeing as it came from a quite prolific site (Vulture) and

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Timeline is incorrect: 2019–2022 2023 Endgame WandaVision 2024 Shang-Chi The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Eternals Far From Home No Way Home Multiverse of Madness Hawkeye 2025 Moon Knight Wakanda Forever Echo She-Hulk Ms. Marvel Love and Thunder The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special

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The She-Hulk origin flashback in the first episode which was said to be "a few months ago" is the one that takes place "shortly" after Shang-Chi. In Shang-Chi, Bruce is still using the inhibitor to keep him in human form but that gets destroyed in the She-Hulk flashback, so the flashback is

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section continues to grow in size and interest in the MCU's timeline continues to grow as well (look at the four talk page sections above), perhaps it should be split into a standalone article. Normally, I would call that fancruft, but since we have so much real-world coverage and external

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No you have not. You misrepresented my words and accused me of making up false information when invoking the multiverse, including using words I’ve never said or proposed in any edit. You are not making those same objections here. That’s not objective, and your accusations weren’t either.

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reason I’ve said before: members of this taskforce seem to object to very similar edits if I’m the one that implements them as opposed to someone else. And to be clear, I don’t consider this edit particularly similar, but the complaints I’ve received should absolutely apply to this one.

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We have been working on putting together an updated timeline covering all of the MCU content and interpretations of the timeline given. We do include the Official Timeline book's timeline in a table further down in this article. Whatever past grievances you have are irrelevant here.

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to change but the last time I tried to change or add something on here you took it off.....and it was accurate. All you had to do was ask the town and high school of Bennett, Colorado. There were two individuals that helped save that high school from vandalism, I was one of them.

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I could see the part about only the first four phases being considered part of the Sacred Timeline being an issue considering Phases 5 and 6 are MCU canon, which Chima mentioned above. Yes, that is what the book covers, but the info in the article should be worded differently. --

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that Marvel Studios only considered, at that time, projects developed by them in their first four phases as part of their "Sacred Timeline", but acknowledged the history of other Marvel films and series that would exist in the larger multiverse given they were "canonical to

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I also get the impression, based on recent interviews, that the showrunner doesn't care that much about where in the timeline the series fits so I think we should be putting more emphasis on Disney+ and other reliable sources than on her casual "shortly after" statement. -

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This talk section is about how we should edit the article in light of how we interpret a quote. Regardless of the source, our timeline should match what reliable secondary sources say it is. Not what we interpret it to be based on a quote from one of many employees.

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canonical to Marvel. How should we go about treating the series? We can't say alone that "they are part of the MCU," because there's a huge caveat to that. Should we state that the show was originally part of the MCU, but exists outside of the sacred timeline?

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New text should say: "In 2019, Disney+ announced that the streaming platform would include Expanding the Universe, a special featuring a look at the original MCU TV series for Disney+ with interviews and concept art, which was released on November 12, 2019."

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per consensus. Done so at the TV series list, this article, and the multiverse page. I did not add it to the films list as we don't really discuss other potential property crossovers outside the official Sony deal so this quote didn't feel relevant there. -

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I don't know if this has been talked before, but I recently saw Angela Basset, Tessa Thompson, Evangeline Lilly, Jaimie Alexander, and Sean Gunn were added to the table of recurring characters. On Alexander and Gunn, they only received main billing in the

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My name is Daniel Kritner, my brother from another mother is name is Jason Rinke. when Bennett high School got broken into and vandalized we put together a talent show to raise funds to help clean up the vandalism in the high school and the year 1998.

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part of the MCU. So it's not a black-and-white thing. We can acknowledge that these shows are multiversal and still treat them as part of the MCU brand at one point in time, while emphasizing the distance between them and the MCU's continuity now.

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I'm just gonna say, this taskforce has filled in a lot of blanks with articles that are filling in the blanks also. At the end of the day, we do reflect that all of the Sony stuff is part of the MCU multiverse on the page literally right now.

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Also, as of October 2023, Marvel Studios and Feige clearly do not consider only phases 1-4 part of the MCU. They consider phase 5 to be as well (as is evident from the Disney+ timeline), they only say that the book only covers phases 1-4.

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Marvel's series of Lego television specials that they've done in the past. Without anything officially disputing these facts or confirming an MCU connection, I do not think we can include it in this article, let alone at Marvel Studios or

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Both are correct per the sources present in the article. Also, an entire bolded message is not necessary. Please refrain from asking generic questions here, as this talk page is for making improvements to the article, not basic questions.

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Justin Hammer would have said anything to hang Tony, even saying that it was within the last 6 months when it would have actually had been a year. he was out to destroy him, he would have shortened that time just to make Tony look bad.

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IN THAT SECTION ANT-MAN AND THE WASP QUANTUMANIA IS SET AFTER THE EVENTS OF BLACK PANTHER WAKANDA FOREVER AND BEGINNING OF MS MARVEL BUT IN TIMELINE QUANTUMANIA IS SET AFTER GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY HOLIDAY SPECIAL WHICH ONE IS CORRECT

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Current text says: "In November 2019, Disney+ announced that the streaming platform would include Expanding the Universe, a special that features a look at the original MCU TV series for Disney+, with interviews and concept art."

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If memory serves me. Haven't looked up any references, as I'm not going to bother. I haven't followed the MCU, these are just memories of things I accidentally ran into while checking daily news(*) over the years from 15~4 years

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I was pointing out that from the eyes of a simple reader who wishes to watch all the MCU in order, the table in the article poses that such person does not watch the Loki series. Proposing to include in such a way it makes more

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which someone considered a "main billing" credit, although I don't know if there's already an agreement on that. If we follow this, other actors like Rene Russo, Michael Douglas or Michelle Pfeiffer should be included as well.

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Also, no, he’s very clearly talking about Marvel Netflix and ABC too. He said movies and series developed by other storytellers during different eras of Marvel’s history aren’t included. He couldn’t be much clearer than that.

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I was consulting the proposed and compiled timeline for the MCU but currently it does not include the Loki series, which in the Disney+ is placed right after Endgame. Is there any reason for this, or is this just an overlook?

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has been worked on and discussions are occurring over there how to approach a new timeline display. The draft is very close to moving, and once it does, that display will transclude back to here. In the meantime, someone can

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projects indicating where they fell in the timeline, and hoped Marvel would correct these mistakes as it had done previously with Black Widow and Black Panther". The correction was done so it would be coherent to mention it.

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the Quantumania D+ date, and they typically do for other movies as well, and dates are sent out in press releases that reliable websites obtain from Disney via emails. Disney+'s YT account doesn't always include everything.

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I guess that was just bad luck and the dates shifted. 2023 should be 2019 and 2026 in order to the rest 2023 so that Endgame is 2019 and The Marvels 2023. The rest needs to be correct analog the the first and last entry.

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However, the question is: if they are mention in Disney+ placement, how come it is not on timline chart? Loki and What If...? Makes sense since both are outside time while Werewolf by Night did not explicitly state when.

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bit of the content we currently have, but this draft isn't us saying we're going to make major changes anytime soon. I've never seen specifications on how to use "Timeline of" before, though I could have missed something.

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to determine the sourcing and placement of that. For the time being, they should remain only in the Disney+ timeline section until we can determine if/how to include them in the main timeline graphic. After all, there is

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generally franchises have wikiboxes that show the timeline of releases in our world, this article has something resembling it but it's actually an in-universe timeline of the events the movies depict which is misleading

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was omitted along with other Marvel Television productions. In a foreward, Kevin Feige stated that these projects are "canonical to Marvel" in a multiversal capacity with the potential of crossing over with future MCU

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ANt-Man 3 is set after GOTGHS but there is a problem, If it is after HS, then it should be 2026 as we see no indication that Christmas was still on in Quantumania. In fact, it doesn't look like winter is there at all.

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Quantumania's timeline details are discussed in that section. It's just not in the timeline table infographic because it is not clear where its exact placement is. That will be determined once it releases on Disney+.

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Just because Nerdist's EiC co-wrote the timeline book does not mean that the perspective from a different individual who writes on their site is somehow reputable. That tweet in the source you are referring to says

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We should probably come back to and discuss this in terms of our approach once that releases to see if a split is warranted with any changes or new information it presents, just so we can all be on the same page.

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was omitted along with other Marvel Television productions. In a foreward, Feige stated that these projects are "canonical to Marvel" in a multiversal capacity with the potential of crossing over with future MCU

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This is a primary source and shouldn't be used at all in an already huge article. When independent reliable sources are released, those should be summarized. We shouldn't interpret primary sources ourselves.

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Feige was also involved in the X-Men movies. We’re going to have to wait to see if the Agent Carter series is mentioned in the book because that isn’t a surefire thing that it’s part of the sacred timeline.

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disney+ japan released an updated release schedule for 2023 and it does not include Echo, What if season 2 and Agatha: Coven of Chaos. any thoughts. and i am not lying. the direct wrote an article on this

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Restarting this thread, I think a split of this content would be beneficial to reducing the size of this article. Make a summary of info here, and move the section as it exists now to its own article. -

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is an MCU game. I'm half-expecting the special to feature MCU-themed minifigures and set pieces, in which case it would be appropriate to discuss here even if Marvel Studios isn't technically involved.

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Episode 2 ends with Abomination's fight in Shang-Chi being "leaked", which as a practical matter would presumably happen shortly after the event, but in theory could be any amount of time afterwards.

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He is the chief creative officer of Marvel, has been the President of Marvel Studios, and is the primary producer on all of the MCU's films so under SPS, his quote would be valid and authoritative.

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articles have a very specific definition and format on Knowledge (i.e. "Timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe" would mean a chronological list of the behind-the-scenes developments of the MCU).

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It's placed after Endgame by Disney+ because of the opening scene. After that, the series takes place before and after Endgame depending on the episode, or out of traditional time entirely. --

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anyone's word on anything or do you just go off of what you want to do? because it seems like you have such a hard time figuring this out and putting this up, I'm trying to help you out.

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Feige isn't the MCU, so this isn't a SPS or ABOUTSELF case. It's someone involved in the project talking about the project. This is a primary source. It is not our duty to interpret it.

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You forgot to mention the placement of Guardians 3 in timeline section. Besides, Ant-Man 3 is in Disney+ now, isn't it placed chronologically? (I do not have DIsney+ so I do not know)

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is releasing in 2023. We do not go by Disney's international sites as they have been wrong in the past. Rumors of delays have been swirling but nothing has been officially confirmed.

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No it wouldn't. He is one of several employees at a mega corporation. Anything he says about himself is allowable, but his own thoughts about MCU are not him talking about himself

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I only skimmed through the article, but it felt to me like it is carefully absent of negative portrayals in the relationships with its workers/collaborators and movie feedback.

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All articles I have seen reporting on the announcement steered clear of saying "Marvel Studios", just that "Marvel" is involved. So I think while we can say that Marvel Studios

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in cultural impact section, under DC entertainment and Warner Bros. Pictures,I think we should add The Batman shared universe since they are similar to Marvel shared universe.

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moved it back to draftspace until it significantly improves, at which point its mainspace eligibility should be discussed among the MCU taskforce editors, and not an AfC, per

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I've started it now by importing the contents from the section there. I don't have adequate time to work on it right now, though I will go through everything as I am able to.

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they’re basically the same worlds we last saw (Andrew’s dialogue about his rhino fight at the end of ASM2, and then explaining what happened after is the biggest piece yet).

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We may have a way to include all Marvel Netflix TV shows in the timeline if their placement is ever made explicit, but it's almost certain that there won't be a way to place

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Skimming through the article, I didn't find any noticeable descriptions of the frequent conflicts the MCU has run into with its collaborators, which - reliable news sources

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Such a timeline article is worth consideration given the number of variables to it and how much contents it currently has at this article. There have been prior attempts at

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as they did not exclusively announce it and no articles are saying such. The Ent/Studios tweets were posted at the same time. The poster and logo are rather similar to the

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whatever they want about the SSU and Spider-Verse, but none of that matters to the MCU. Marvel Studios, as the author of the MCU, is the sole authority on what is canon.

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I have never interacted with you until now, so I cannot speak to whatever you are on about, though that does not pertain to this and holds no baring or relevance here.

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featured quotes from both VFX specialists and people who worked in-house at the animation studio, should this be taken as a sign of being the division's official name?

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which part of what Favre1fan93 added to the article did you think was incorrect? It states pretty much exactly what it says in the foreword, only mostly paraphrased. —

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Kevin Feige has officially stated that any pre-phase 4 films and series not included in the book are not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe's sacred timeline but

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In the "Disney Wish" section, Disney Wish is described as a cruise line when it should be described as a cruise ship. "Disney Cruise Line" is the name of the line.

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Also, when second seasons of the shows start to come out, it's gonna be hard to follow along which seasons to watch before other things. Maybe a new way to put it.

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Before we get to that point, can sources be provided for these propositions? I am only aware of a single notable instance of an actor being dropped for a sequel.

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Thats still primary. If its notable, someone who isn't paid by the company will write about all of this. Until then, we don't need to interpret primary sources.

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A credible source with ties to the creation of the book makes the claim that all of the adaptations utilizing MCU characters are canon to the MCU multiverse.

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Additionally, the onscreen text of Jen's website searching mentioned the Celestial in the ocean, so "present day" of the series is definitely at least after

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amount of time between one thing and the others. That's what I tought was confusing for anyone who reads the Timeline section. Maybe we should change it to "

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the special, I don't think we can say definitively that they are involved in any capacity. The poster does use the MCU's Avengers logo and references the

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there's no way of corroborating something from 1998. maybe you can make that right for me and we can both pretend that this conversation never happened.

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the book only covers projects on the Sacred Timeline, and it just so happens that the contents of the book is only media developed by Marvel Studios.)

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things up with some of the older non-MCU stuff (though we will not know for probably another year given it’s no longer making the May date next year).

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because of the show's opening scene in episode 1. After that, the series pretty much takes place outside the timeline (already stated in the article).

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television list, film list, and here on the main MCU page. I would add a caveat for the television list that the following be added to the end above:

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That was my first thought as well when I read the quote, though I can see why some people are extending his quote to Marvel Television productions.

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I concur. While I would not oppose work on a potential article being started in a sandbox, I do not believe a split needs to be made at this time.

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I would support a blend of the two versions, as I consider the end to end bit choppy. The original version was this, which I think was superior:

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So you’re being a stick in the mud over an interpretation that’s not supported by the text at all? How could you even think that to be the case?

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takes place during Christmas, so there are still a few days of 2025 left. The film seems to pick up right after the Special. I'm not saying it's

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seems to acknowledge that Marvel's other movies and TV shows (Sony/Netflix/Fox) can be canon to the MCU and will merge into the Sacred Timeline.

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definitely after Shang-Chi. And a few months after that could totally push it to Jan/Feb 2025 when the present-time events of She-Hulk begin. —

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While the character fits the bill of the taskforce as an original creation, that article is severely underdeveloped and does not remotely pass

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That section is not for when the films released. Those dates are for when the events occurred in-universe, which are all accurately sourced.

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What! I saw that the draft was under review, but decided not to intervene because I assumed it would be a quick-fail. (Also, it's Robert.)

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If we were to go by the logic of "if Film A references Film B, then Film A and Film B must exist in the same universe/multiverse", then

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That sounds like original research. We should summarize what independent sources say instead of coming up with an interpretation here.

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had it - got to the point of MCU having a hard time getting Directors to direct their movies because no one wanted to work with them.

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Except that it is what he said: they’re not on the sacred timeline, the book is specific to projects that are on the sacred timeline.

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is almost exclusively used for list articles (which I don't think is what we're going for) and for real-world events. For example,

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So, if all of the series acknowledged they are part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they should be included in the timeline.

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I didn't say Feige wasn't alluding to Marvel Television, I was agreeing with the IP that that was my first instinct as well.

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I think the producers of almost everything in Phase 4 don't care about the placement. But the Timeline is right after all...

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Are none of the Marvel One-Shots included in the book? I don't have it but I've seen pages of it and at least the events of

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analysis. We take quotes at face value, unless secondary sources discussing the quote comes to the same conclusion as you.

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section structure-wise, I think. If I remember correctly, the prior contents of the draft were textbook fancruft, which is

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commentary, an article might satisfy GNG. And as a bonus, we would have enough space to create multiple timeline graphs.

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The book is wrong. It blatantly contradicts many things that were explicitly made clear in the films, for example that

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According to this article, series produced by ABC and Netflix belongs in the MCU, but why they aren't in the timeline?

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I have copyedited the information to make it concise while noting the release date, as that is what is more relevant.

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I'm late to this discussion, but here are my thoughts regarding this quote. I think all we can say is the following:

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in collaboration with Marvel Studios and lays out every event in the Marvel Cinematic Universe's "sacred timeline",

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shared universe attempts, as that fits within this article's scope. Otherwise it'd just become an exhaustive list.

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a Marvel Studios production, but I'm fine with waiting for the actual credits if we're still not confident enough.

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franchises so they shouldn't be included. On the former three, I'm assuming they were included per their credit in

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None of the proposed wording nor the use of a secondary source to support the wording (which is reworked to avoid

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2026, it's clearly what's most likely, but we cannot outright confirm it without making an, albeit small, leap. —

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I think doctor strange starts in 2016 and ends in 2017. I mean that kind of sorcery training takes a long time

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Goody day to you. Any particular reason as to why you add a detailed information about the connection between

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I had assumed that "self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established

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I concur. I just think we need more details to cover all bases before we were to concretely include it here.

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Ah, I see. I would actually prefer the shorter, current title, though the others could be viable redirects.

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including the Spider-Verse films. This page itself reflects the fact that they occupy the same multiverse.

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Which is exactly why we're not using the book as the reference... because it was covered by other sites.

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meant to show where each title occurs in the ficitional timeline, as depicted by the titles themselves,

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I'm sorry but I can't seem to find your proposed edit in this discussion or in the article's history. —

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Consensus has not been reached. Either we need to continue discussing, or we need to seek arbitration.

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The film itself confirms it, but that doesn't explicitly place it in 2026. If I recall correctly, the

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series, like how actors from those films have been returning in multiverse-focused stories: like how

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You were mad at me for invoking the multiverse similarly to how it is being done here. What gives?

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are American-made series so we follow the U.S. release date (if there is a new announcement), see

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Wait, did something happen? Why the sudden change of heart? By the way, I've moved the draft to

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I sadly see a future in which you are blocked if you continue in the direction you are headed.

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Including dropping actors for sequels in favour of cheaper actors and conflicts with writers.

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The president and CCO is not "one of several employees", I disagree with that interpretation.

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I sadly see a future in which you are blocked if you continue in the direction you are headed.

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The MCU Wiki lists it as 2026 and it’s been confirmed to take place after the Holiday Special

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and work through that collectively before making such a content move. I agree it would help.

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Is this being produced by Marvel Studios? The connection to the MCU seems tenuous at best.

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This week’s episode also drove home that which head writer/EP Jessica Gao told TVLine, that

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Anything Kevin Feige says about Kevin Feige is allowable. Anything he says about MCU is

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List of Marvel Legends Hasbro action figures#Marvel Studios: The First Ten Years (2018)

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articles. We do have tables for the MCU content in their defined groups located at the

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inferences of the quote in this article, though it has been paraphrased as necessary.

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It seems you are once again rehashing arguments that have been refuted many times at

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Because we're following the Disney+ Timeline, and it doesn't include these shows...

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Their inclusion on the overall timeline graphic is currently under discussion at

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The timeline section chart has the years and film release dates all misaligned.

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There's a reception section in this article, and separate article on that (

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Its not from an interview. It's from the foreward in an official MCU book.

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So, the netflix series has been confirmed to be existing within the MCU.

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Here's the most recent text of it as it would appear on the Inhumans page:

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ANT-MAN AND THE WASP QUANTUMANIA IS NOT THERE IN TIMELINE.PLEASE ADD IT.

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That was also my interpretation of the footage leak. Episode 3 clarifies

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all take a look at them before we proceed with any notion of consensus.

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was sometime ago, early 2025 can also be right (which I agree with). —

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WT:MCU#All Marvel productions are now from Marvel Cinematic Universe?

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Do you have the entire quote? We have to analyse this in context. —

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Kindly provide a source supporting your claim instead of doing an

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WHY MARVEL TELEVISION SERIES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN MCU TIMELINE

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Consensus has not been reached. Discussion is still ongoing.

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That's been the case the whole time for the book coverage.

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I would support adding this as you have described it.

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where it actually becomes a significant description.

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Not a suitable outcome per the ongoing discussion at

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OK I REFRAIN FROM ASKING GENERIC QUESTIONS.THANK YOU

4378:- Hugo Weaving was dropped for someone else cheaper, 2897:

Other credible sources back up the existence of the

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then kindly provide reliable sources confirming it.

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The Marvel Cinematic Universe: An Official Timeline

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The Marvel Cinematic Universe: An Official Timeline

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The Marvel Cinematic Universe: An Official Timeline

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all the Pixar films must exist in the same universe

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Fictional timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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Fictional timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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