935:, but you need a source that supports it, and discuss it in more detail in the body of the article. A cleaner dividing line, which I think is likely the one taken by a plurality of reliable sources, would be between "film" and "television", according to which Coulson's (and Carter's, Sitwell's and Stark's) appearances in the Blu-Ray shorts would not count as separate media to the feature films, and we could happily lump the streaming shows in with the network television; but that would only increase the number of characters who have at least "appeared" in "all" (two) media exponentially. And if this definition also includes "comic books" and "video games" as separate "media of the MCU", that would be giving more undue weight to non-canonical promotional materials that the creative forces behind neither the films nor the TV shows take as being part of "the universe".
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do you know what that means? It certainly doesn't mean that the
Daredevil and Doctor Strange comics are in separate universes. It simply means that both comics take place in the larger Marvel Comics Universe, but they don't cross-over. The same thing accounts for the shows and movies of the MCU. They all take place in the same larger Cinematic Universe, but they do not directly cross-over. Otherwise you're saying, "Well, the movies are impacting the shows, so that clearly proves the movies aren't in the same universe as the shows." The movies are doing their own thing, and the shows are doing their own thing, and they are not mandated to force-feed us cross-overs. I'm curious, though: do you also feel that the Marvel/Netflix shows are part of a separate universe, apart from both the movies and
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episodes of
Daredevil that their total duration surpassed that of AOS, but not the total episode number. It's these sorts of questions that keep me up at night. Anyway, I don't think it's unreasonable to classify a season as a single release. It seems to be a good equalizer: regardless of how many minutes of content we're getting within a season, divided among how many episodes, we're still getting a season of content. It would probably still, at this point, count Clark Gregg as having appeared more than any other character, but at least it would be a number possible to beat in the future, not a ridiculous 90+ appearances. Honestly, the only guy who should appear that much is Stan Lee. -
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In the past, this has been the accepted layout, though said editor pointed out that the reasoning in the past was that images of every director couldn't fit and got goppy-looking. However, this can all be solved by making the directors' images smaller - as I have done similarly on the DCEU page. As this makes the page consistently look the same, and due to the fact that an average reader would have no clue that the editors have decided to only include selected directors - making the page inconsistent - I suggest we add in each of the directors' images by their FIRST respectively entry in the MCU. Adds to the aesthetic and layout of the page.--
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steer clear of the drahma boards for a while, so it wouldn't be me acting out on these so-called "threats" anyway. Stop edit-warring while refusing to engage in discussion, stop referring to the status-quo as "consensus", stop removing maintenance tags, and stop referring to the addition of maintenance tags as a change to the text of the article that requires "consensus". No one thinks a maintenance tag is a potential improvement to the article that we should get consensus to implement: that claim was ridiculous when CurtisNaito made it two years ago, and it's still ridiculous now that you are making it.
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Silver Surfer, Galactus, Fantastic Four, etc. In the event that the deal goes through (and it is believed that the announcement could come as early as next week), how should we address it in this article? Even if the report doesn't shed any light on the direction that Disney plans on taking these properties, it probably does at least deserve a mention on this page. At the very least it probably deserves an initial mention in the
Cultural Impact section under 20th Century Fox. In any case, such a merger will have enormous impacts on both the MCU and the current X-Men series at Fox.
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of these is acceptable by itself, and I have seen people get TBANned for less than you have now done. WP:CALC is about whether a simple calculation has to be sourced in the body of an article; it has nothing whatsoever to do with inclusion of material in the lead that is not included elsewhere in the article, and this isn't even a simple calculation (you are counting individual episodes as separate appearances, but at least one other user thinks a season is one appearance, and I'm actually more inclined to take one TV show as one appearance).
960:"All the different media of the MCU" is all that are defined in the opening two sentences of the lead paragraph (and subsequent subsections): feature films, comic books, short films (One-Shots), television series (regardless of release platform) and digital series. Nothing about this is arbitrary as you are claiming (seemingly with your personal opinion of what is and isn't considered canon material of the MCU). As for sources to support it, the table in the section does so, as we have Coulson spanning all four columns, with sources. -
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also has to be backed up directly in the body of the article. (I think case could be made for either of those as well, or even for Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark, since honestly he was the first to cross over into another film franchise and the number of MCU films not to feature him, name-drop him, or shoe-horn one of his relatives in for marquee value and to tie specifically back to him could still be counted on one hand, while
Coulson was a character in
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1583:) - Aside from both Kevin Feige and James Gunn confirming that Stan Lee has played the same character in every Marvel Cinematic Universe property, the Netflix shows give him the name Captain Irving Forbush of the NYPD. Irving Forbush is the alter-ego of the Marvel superhero Forbush Man. I'm in support of him being added to the recurring characters, since we actually have a name for him and it happens to be someone from the comics.
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be of Gregg and
Coulson. So how about this: "Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU, that has appeared across all the different media of the MCU." This keeps our desire to have the mention be Coulson, and is factually correct in that he is the only character/actor to appear in the films, TV series, One-Shots, digital media, and the tie-in comics. -
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question is 'why do we need those colored boxes?' and further more 'what determines the color!?'. Whatever the argument is for them, I think they should be removed. None of the films listed have them. If your argument is to keep them, then 'why don't we put colored boxes next to each of the films, too?'...yeah completely superfluous to have it on the page.--
3277:- totally agree with the 'studios influenced' section. Where two of the larger sections have now been integrated into the MCU - perhaps a short description of how the studio attempted similar 'shared universes', but then ultimately rebooted (Sony) and joined, or were bought out (Fox) and will be integrated. The section definitely needs to be shortened.
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can we really compare a network series to a
Netflix series, which generally have fewer episodes? Another option would be to say, "X has appeared in most number of MCU titles" and count each title equal regardless of episode or season count. It would also mean that One-Shots and digital series are also counted the same as films.--
4678:. Namely, that we haven't been doing a great job of including alt descriptions with images. We just need to go through the pages and make sure that anything not really conveyed by the captions on images is being described in an alt so that people who can't see the images get an equivalent experience to everyone else. -
541:) to get to this: be it an episode counts as 1 appearance, a whole season is one appearance, or a group of episodes to get to "feature film length" (so like 3-4, 40 min episodes). That is why it is included as such in the lead, which doesn't necessarily mean it is pulled verbatim from somewhere in the article. -
4411:". But we see that he has updated his armor significantly, similar to that of the 'Bleeding Edge' armor from the comics, that is nanotechnology based and stored in the new arc reactor he has in his chest. Perhaps these film pages and any other related articles should be updated to reflect that? (here's a
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Well, we should be able to just remove the fair use rationale from the image. It is literally just text, there is no fair use required. I just wanted to have a little discussion before I did it; I am going to be bold and do it now, anyone can revert me and we can continue the discussion if necessary.
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I actually think it should go in the "Cultural impact" section as its own subsection. Because what it seems to me you are trying to add
Cambalachero, is the influence the MCU had on the 616 Universe, not necessarily MCU versions or MCU inspired characters appearing in the comics. If it was the later,
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Now that two of our main examples of studios being influenced by the MCU have been partly integrated or discussed to be integrated with the MCU, I wondered whether others wanted to discuss potentially restructuring that aspect of this article, having a smaller influenced by section that just mentions
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Cinematic Universe characters such as Iron Man, Captain America, etc. have made significant appearances in several films with box office receipts amounting to billions. These incredibly popular characters are simply delegated to small sections composed of mere paragraphs or even just sentences
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I didn't actually get to c/e yet (so standby on that), but I'm not sure a table would be appropriate, because we've generally reserved the tables for "in canon" MCU material. So if we want to continue that, then maybe splitting to a separate list is also appropriate. But then again, all of are splits
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is by using an arbitrary definition of "media" that includes "Blu-Ray special features" and "network television" as separate media from "feature films", but lumps
Netflix in with network television, and even under such a definition it's not clear how Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, Jasper Sitwell are not
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The onus of the sentence, as I've stated, is to be the lead mention for the recurring characters section of the article. Also as I've mentioned, the previous consensus was the current wording. Obviously there has been disagreement on this specific wording, but seems to be agreement the mention should
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cross-over because his first television appearance post-dates his in-universe death, which the films for which the MCU is named have been sticking to, but that's beside the point.) Just stating that he has made X number of appearances doesn't make sense, as it would beg the questions "So? Is that the
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is equivalent to ten or twenty movies is essentially ignoring the films -- is out of the question) and unverifiable. But it seems virtually everyone here is still missing the point that this information should not be in the lead unless it mentioned somewhere in the body of the article. I'm re-tagging
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is meaningless? That doesn't make any sense to me. The MCU is not obligated to have every character cross-over to every other property, just like every Marvel comic is not obligated to have every character cross-over all the time. If the
Daredevil comics never cross-over to the Doctor Strange comics,
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There is a paragraph at "Business practices". It may be expanded when new info is available (if it is either confirmed or rejected). Yes, if it happens it will be a turning point with several consequences and may deserve its own section, but let's wait and see. Have in mind that we can't really talk
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The reason I kept the prose as such was because, unlike the films/TV series etc., these video games do not have a separate list article where this info would be included. As such, these bits as they pertained to the universe, seemed the most relevant to keep on this article (at least the Lego stuff,
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Finished going all of the different versions of the games and they seem to be very loosely based on either the film universe or the film itself. I've gone a head and added the short summaries of each game. As a note (to whomever read this), please don't be quick to revert if you do not like the list
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is only allowed with consensus. RM has a good point: Stan Lee has been in 15 films and 2 TV series for a total of 17 appearances while Clark Gregg has been in 4 films, 2 one-shots, 1 TV series, and 1 digital series for a total of 8 appearances. However, I am still in favor of removing it entirely as
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Stop removing maintenance templates without addressing the issues. I pinged you the first time you reverted me, and you ignored all subsequent discussion until I readded the template, and you reverted again regardless. In other words, you (1) edit-warred to (2) remove a maintenance template. Neither
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The inclusion in the lead is to make mention of the recurring character section, as sections in the article should be noted in the lead. As such, Coulson got the mention because not only is he original to the MCU (as noted), he has appeared the most (also as noted). This is no matter how you look at
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Anyway, regardless of whether the films take place in the same universe as the TV shows (I don't think they do, but I'm fine waiting for that to become "official" before adding it to the article), the fact is that the lead currently contains a somewhat controversial claim, not supported by a sourcs,
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This section was originally opened without a title because I'm a dunce. Dinoslider applied the title "Most appearances". This apparently led to the discussion veering somewhat off-topic, with a number of editors (including, ironically, the one who had initially removed the "not in body" tag) stating
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But the Cultural Impact is for influences outside of Marvel. We already have information about how the MCU’s success has influenced their own films (increasing the number of films per year, etc.) and growth into other media in the development section. Also it’s nice to keep related topics together.
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For anybody interested and who has the time, I think we are getting to the point where the MCU-inspired attractions could probably get their own article, or we could at least put together a proposed new article where that stuff is split-off from here. A decent MCU-inspired video games article could
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I am wondering why it was decided to exclude 'story by' credits within the chart. Other similar pages list the 'story writer' credit right after the screenwriter credit, unless there is no provided/credited story writer; then there is just the screenwriters inserted across the columns. What was the
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would not be answered, because that subpage is not a discussion portal (as I explained), simply a means to display and keep track of the info. No one was going to answer it there, and it is very unlikely many others would even see it. Hence starting this discussion so you can ask you question and a
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made for the Netflix series, and it also has an "episode" like the WHIH Newsfront series of viral videos. It hasn't been updated for The Defenders or The Punisher so far, but we may get more in the future. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the Digital Series section, or make a "Viral Videos" sub-section
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that I think is worth considering. Because the Lego game is not technically a "tie-in" game, this option I have created removes the Lego game from the table, and restores it to its own subsection as it has essentially been on this article before these other VG additions. In my eyes, this helps with
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Because there is so much of it. That plus the table puts the section way over the top in terms of weight. And like I said we don't go into detail about the content of the films, television series, one shots, or comic books here, so it's weird that we do that for the video games which as you pointed
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This has been a topic touched on recently, and here's what I have to say about it. There were some constructive edits done by an editor that was quickly reverted on the argument that a consensus was already reached here. The directors' images on this page currently only include recurring directors.
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It's a formatting that has been accepted by the TV project for displaying such info, and has been implemented here. Is it honestly a big deal if we have *gasp* two seasons with a similar color? No it isn't, so I don't see this as an issue or a problem going forward. It also isn't a "coding mess" as
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using random claims of "prior consensus" to justify edit-warring and removal of maintenance templates. If you cannot back up your "consensus" claims by pointing a discussion on this talk page where there was clear consensus for the content you are insisting is just fine exactly as it is and doesn't
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I should have clarified "X" and "Y" don't represent the number of appearances but the actor as in "Downey Jr. (for example) has appeared in the most number of films, while Greg has made the most number of television appearances." That way we aren't trying to compare apples to oranges. But I do like
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as an appearance as opposed to each episode. The TV series of the MCU don't have a set number of episodes per season (22, 13, 10, etc.) nor a set duration of each episode (Daredevil has reached as high as 65 minutes I think, while AOS has hit 41 or so). What would happen if we eventually had enough
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And this is ultimately why I rarely to anything here at Knowledge. There's too much red tape and bureaucratic ****. Do we need a source to say that Coulson has made such-and-such amount of appearances? Is it really considered Original Research to do kindergarten-level simple math and add all of his
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Thing is, though, Coulson's death is about the one area where we can be certain the creative powers behind the films are ignoring the TV series and pretending they exist in a different universe. We know as a near-certainty that he will never appear in another movie, since the guy who killed him off
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My reasoning was simple enough: Each episode counts as a separate entry in the MCU, just like each movie in a trilogy counts as a separate entry. So Coulson would have the most appearances overall in the MCU, even if he hasn't appeared the most in the movies or crossed-over the most. Beyond that, I
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I don't know what the right place to put this is, but a section on the impact the MCU has had on the comics is more than just MCU-inspired characters appearing in other media, it should be about the general ways the comics have imitated the MCU, as well as why and if it has been successful if that
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Marvel comics as well. The inhumans were pushed to leading roles in the detriment of the X-Men and even starred in crossover events, many characters are slightly or heavily modified to match their cinematic versions, the GOTG include their humor, "The Defenders" and "Avengers Assemble" had similar
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After further research, it appears that Fox does not own, nor has ever held, the rights to Fantastic Four. The rights have been held by Constantin Films since at least the early-to-mid 80s, and every film in the franchise, including the 3 films released by Fox, were produced through them. It would
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It is being reported that Disney is currently in the process of purchasing 20th Century Fox for an estimated $ 60 billion. As I'm sure most of you are aware, if this happens then that implication is that Marvel Studios will regain the rights to many A-list characters including the X-Men, Deadpool,
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The article has no explanation of what it means by the term "phase", but the term is used throughout, starting in the lede, as if it had some sort of significance. (The term "Phase Two" is actually capitalized in the lede, which seems puzzling.) I actually came to the article because I'd heard the
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Other TV shows may be able to sustain that formatting, but given how many various MCU television series there are, and seasons within those shows - I agree with other editors in saying it's going to become a coding mess. With how close two differing shades can look, it's going to get even hairier.
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It is a logo for the MCU, released officially by Disney as part of a televised documentary about the MCU. And it is by far the best option. Your alternative not only is not a logo for the MCU (and so potentially confusing), it also applies only to two films at the moment, and this article is about
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Yeah, I agree for the reasons against mentioning it in the lead, at least without a source. I didn't think about Stan Lee, but again as important in real-life as he may be, putting him up against the characters of the MCU makes him seem kind of trivial in comparison. He's just the "Hey, fans, it's
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Is there another way to work around this? I does seem a bit like apples and oranges to me. A film appearance doesn't really equal a television episode. Could we say, "X has made the most appearances in MCU films, while Y has made most number of appearances in MCU television series"? But then again
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I fully agree that an argument could be made that Phil Coulson, as an MCU original character who appeared in most of the Phase I movies and One-Shots, and headlined the first MCU television series, is more worthy of mention in the lead of this article than Atwell's Carter of Jackson's Fury, but it
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agree on this, then one feigning agreement with me by blanking a sentence I had tagged, and the other then re-adding the sentence without the tag, is really sneaky. Removing maintenance tags without addressing the issues is a very serious issue (don't make me explain how), and using workarounds to
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That discussion is a mess, but there are only five people involved. Even if four of the five all agreed from start to finish (and a compromise that's no one's ideal is not the same as everyone being in full agreement) 4-1 would not be much of a "consensus"; and then there's the fact that they four
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Agree with Adam. Also IP, the line is most certainly correct. Per the wording, Coulson is the only character to appear in ALL MCU media (no longer is the line stating "most appearances"). No other character has appeared in a feature film, One-Shot, TV series, or digital series. Coulson has in all
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I was curious how or why it was decided to exclude Thor's last name in any of the cast listings. Everytime he introduces himself it's as "Thor Odinson". The argument could be made that he's introducing himself as Odin's son, but in the Norse mythology and Marvel's adaptation thereof this is how a
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It may not change your opinion, but to clarify - the article didn't actually say that Feige was being "tongue-in-cheek". It said that even with Feige's statement about him being the same character, the author thought it was being done tongue-in-cheek. It's the author's opinion of it, not Feige's.
1188:, the current image is not the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" logo as it says it is. The image in use is a marketing image for a collection. It's a poor-colored image, with lousy placement. Something that better represents the MCU needs to be used. Never has this image appeared in any of the films.--
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of disputed material, as it hadn't been changed -- it had been tagged, and you removed the tag without addressing the issues. And I'm not "threatening" you; I'm just warning you about what happens to editors who pull the kind of stuff you are pulling here. As you may be already aware, I intend to
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Yeah, and there's also the fact that the MCU is mostly notable for innovations in cross-franchise continuity (which is why Coulson gets mentioned and why I think a case could be made for Stark too), while Stan Lee had been making cameos in movies based on Marvel comics long before that (i.e., his
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agreed with Favre (although the latter appeared to be doing so in more of a generic sense that supported some hypothetical wording about how Gregg has appeared the most across the various MCU media, not the current wording about how Gregg has the highest numerical count of appearances if we count
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This article gives a brief history or summary of "Other Studios" attempting to establish their own movie universe as opposed to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. After Disney/Marvel's acquisition of all the X-Men & Fantastic Four character rights from Fox, why is there no mention of this in the
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So, when there were only several TV shows as a part of the shared universe, the whole colored boxes were pretty cool because they matched the themes/colors of their respective series. As the shows have exponentially increased, the colors become more and more obscure and completely irrelevant. My
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As I told Bold Clone above, I fully agree with your sentiment and think that Coulson probably does deserve mention in the lead. But that completely misses the point that this should not be in the lead if it's not in the body, and should not be in the body just because you and I (and however many
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On top of that, this type of claim must not be included in the lead unless also verified in the article body, regardless of whether it is accurate or not. Even though no one directly removed the maintenance template (if I was as conspiracy-minded as some users I've interacted with recently, I'd
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I believe there was an error in naming Sony's universe. Technically, what they have is not a "Marvel Universe" as they only have rights to Spider-Man and Spider-man related characters. Therefore I suggest that any mention of "Sony's Marvel Universe" be renamed to "Sony's Spider-Man Universe".
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TV appearances of any main character will probably go beyond a main film character. But it's who's most relevant. Coulson has appeared more than any other character in several different media, such as films, one-shots, TV series, and web shorts. Beyond that, it's debatable. Or even mentioning
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There may be an archived discussion mentioning this, but essentially, if giving the overview of each film, the screenwriter is the one that puts out what you see on the screen, even if the structure/premise of it was created by someone else. That's why "story by" credits have been omitted. -
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I don't think that would solve it. This is a massive article with a relatively tiny lead section. The only way we can justify mentioning Coulson in the lead is by saying that he has made "the most appearances" (something that as of May 2017 is still true even by my conservative estimate) or
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wasn't really productive, so the status quo remained. My opinion is that since there was an argument on how to calculate it, then the answer is not clearly stated in the body and thus should not be stated in the lead. Even if it was, it seems like a pretty trivial fact in my opinion. -
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How is keeping the prose as proposed any different than the prose featured for the other subsections of "Outside media" we have? It seems to be less than "Live attractions" and "Television specials" for sure. I don't feel by having it is giving any undue weight to these video games. -
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I've linked the actual photo in the EL section of the film cast list, but as to where we mention the 10 year celebration, I'm still at a lose myself. I feel like it should probably be this article, but I don't think we should start a whole new section just for this info. -
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their agreement that Coulson should be stated as having the most appearances while ignoring my main point that such claims should not be in the lead if they are not also made in the article body. I have renamed the section accordingly, to avoid any more misunderstandings.
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period or stage. What distinguishes Phase One (all-caps) from Phase Two? I could refer to the first three chapters of the book I'm currently reading as "phase one", but that would be silly unless there's some distinct change between those chapters and the ones that
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Amy Pascal recently said at a press conference that Venom would be set in the same universe as the rest of the MCU and that Tom Holland could potentialy appear in the Venom movie. Meaning that the Venom movie should be added on to this page Here is the source:
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TLDR: The above suggestion by Triiiplethreat is based on an arbitrary definition of what count as "different media", and said arbitrary definition needs a source to be included in the article. I have no problem with the definition personally, but it has to be
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Also, while it's not a term that's used in this context outside of MCU films, it's also kind of self-explanatory. A phase according to a quick google search is "a distinct period or stage in a process of change or forming part of something's development".
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However, "thus"ly so each and every TV series that has been up for debate of whether it is a part of the MCU or not - HAS IN FACT been a part of the MCU. "Thus" the information in question will "thus" be added to the page, "thus". You can quote me on that
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I did see the quotes you mentioned, Favre1fan93, but you're asking me to infer a lot from that. Especially with the unusual and extremely formal (all-caps) way the term is used. Prof Kilroy: the formal, all-caps usage of the term suggests a significance
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I was just wondering why in the world the image at the top of the page is being used as the shared universes official logo? Marvel Studios has had an official logo as a separate entity separating itself from other Marvel productions since the release of
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I noticed that the fourth Avengers film was titled Avengers: Reassembled. However, the title for this film has not been announced yet, so I suggest changing the title in the table from "Avengers: Reassembled" back to "Untitled Avengers Film".
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is going into its fifth season and Gregg has been a main cast member since the beginning, the article body already covers this, since it's not intuitive to take each episode of a TV show as an independent work -- again, by that logic most of
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Whatever you guys think works. I just think that the later articles, like A:IW 3 & 4 should somehow reflect the updates to his armor. The media is talking notice, as seen in the ref I added above, so perhaps we should should as well. -
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU and the only character to appear across all the different media of the MCU.
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The phase three films listed in the table seem to have an extra column, with numbers (maybe running length) in the directors column, shifting all the columns after it one to the right, so they don't match up with the table headings.
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Even if it were true that each episode counted as an independent appearance, including that kind of data in the article is not interesting to the reader, when Atwell appeared in two TV series, multiple movies (not even just the
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last name came to be, and Marvel kept that as the character's name and for the same reason. In addition to this, over the multiple movies others call him Thor Odinson many times. Why was it decided to exclude that?--
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I would tweak it to highlight the notability of this achievement: "Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU and the only character to appear across all the different media of the
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I am unfamiliar with the term 'digital series' and can't find a definition anywhere on WP. What does it mean exactly. I am not a video game user and so I wonder if that is what is meant. Best Regards,
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appear that Constantin and Fox may have a distribution deal in place, and the sale of Fox to Disney may not allow the rights to go back to Marvel. Something to keep in mind if the sale goes through.
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So then we have 5 (these + lego) out of the 7 games with different stories. Isn't it strange then leaving 2 games out? Also, then what's the verdict for these 4?--
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avoid anyone having to actually do that by themselves is ... not good.
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which has been here pretty much the longest). How about a version (
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The "Other media" section with the other comic book information.--
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No objections here on either account; attractions or video games.—
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for good and featured topics? That's where our "rush" comes from.
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3303:In the Post-Phase Three section, they only state
2367:Been going over the references and it seems from
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1735:New Warriors Row (Television Section Addition)
4049:Ways the MCU changed the comics it comes from
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