Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe/Archive 11

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frames being involved, and story lines from the comics being either compressed into much shorter time periods, with substantial elements omitted (e.g., Tony Stark's alcoholism, Thor's banishment to Earth, the whole Civil War arc), or stretched out far beyond what appears in the comics (e.g. Killian's role as the "real" Mandarin). More frequently, elements created for the films are completely different from or unrelated to anything that appears in the comics (e.g., Tony Stark being the creator of Ultron, who in turn builds the Vision, which Stark and Banner then finish). There are analytical details about all of these things in these articles, but it is a matter of course that they are worked into the overall text in such a way that they do not immediately stand out to someone who is merely comparing elements of these articles to the dozen or so films whose events they cover. There is always more that can be added, which is more likely to happen once these drafts are in article space. Consider the reader, however, who is interested in the MCU depiction of Tony Stark across the films. Would they be better off if they have to read pieces of eight or nine different articles to understand the development of a character across that number of films?

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MCU series character that are unique to that discussion. The storylines, though drawn from the comics, are restructured, condensed or distributed over different films. Thus, each character in the film series has a storyline unique to that series, with elements unique to the MCU. There are also, of course, extensive discussions of how the actors were cast for the parts, how they and the directors went about creating the specific version of the character that is now "canon" to the films, how those characters differ from their comic book counterparts, and how they have been received as film characters by the public (which is not necessarily an audience that cares about comic books).

1033:. Also for the examples you mentioned, the outlines are quite different than the articles they outline and in fact very useful. Compared to the MCU outline, which is pretty much just all the tables from this article. I still don't see the point in even needing this outline article when this article is pretty much an overview/outline in itself, but that's besides the point. Since this outline is not really adding much, I don't see the point in having it at the top. If someone is really interested in seeing it as an outline, the can easily find it by clicking the "See Also" item in the menu, just like is done with the MCU Wiki book. - 2625: 2179: 1151:

to do about acquiring those rights or whether they will simply involve Constantine in the production of future FF movies. Considering the stalemate they have with Universal over the Hulk (Hulk can only be used with other characters, any solo films have to distributed by Universal), Disney might not want to have the same thing going on with FF. With all of the X-Men back at Marvel, Disney might not consider Fantastic Four a priority and also might hope that waiting might put pressure on Constantine (which has had money problems lately) to sell outright.

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are absent from this listing despite their appearances in What If...? via voice roles. I was wondering if these should be included in the table and if we should have a voice role indicator for What If...?, although the latter might not be necessary as some film stars have live-action series whereas other actors who appeared in the films and are in What If...? (e.g. Paul Rudd, Djimon Hounsou, etc.) are not currently listed but could be with this listing.

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of Tom Holland's Spider-Man. Lastly, Sony CEO clearly stated that the Tom Holland Spider-Man will become more integrated into the SMU. "Early" as you said, since reports have stated those angles of the negotiations are ongoing - but it's clear as to what is going on here. Spidey originally left MCU, because Feige wanted credit on the SMU movies that he will assist with (since he received no credit/pay for the first releases). And

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films. There is a clear distinction between the Disney+ shows and the other ones; that distinction being, that the former are produced by Marvel Studios, while the latter ones by Marvel Television. As such I would suggest to make a distinction between those shows and organize the Television section accordingly. Other than that, it could basically stay the same. It would go something like this:

4700: 2521: 2131: 808: 470: 1482:). I'm sure more work can be done, but it would be more productive to improve these articles than to try to dispense with them. I can find no policy prohibiting their existence, so unless they fail an AfD or an MfD, they are going to end up in the encyclopedia. Whether individual members of this project want to help improve them is a personal choice. I note, by the way, that 963:). Rather than starting an edit war, I would like to see what the community thinks. Should this template be included at the top of the page? (I note that there is already a link to the outline in the "see also" section, but given how long the article is, I believe that having a link to the outline at the top, rather than towards the end, would be more useful) -- 2018:

canonicity is irrelevant. They are telling Marvel Comics stories that are not within the main timeline, but they are just as clearly part of the multi-timeline fictional “Marvel Comics Universe”. The same goes for the MCU “What If...?” It is clearly not part of the main MCU timeline, but it is just as clearly part of the multi-faceted world of the MCU. --

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are and are not in MCU but the news is that the contract of Netflix and Marvel of the characters which Netflix owns(DAREDEVIL,PUNISHER... etc.) is going to expire soon and that they are going remake DAREDEVIL so maybe the Netflix characters are not in MCU which explains the events of Avengers Infinity War not affecting them.

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set to appear in the series. Given it is animated and set in an alternate portrayal of the universe, it is undoubtedly non-canon to the main timeline but is rather part of the franchise and Phase Four roster, so I think it's notable to include the actors in it here via the indicator to address the uniqueness of it.

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Black Widow (May 2020) The Eternals (November 2020) Shang-Chi and the Legend of 10 Rings (February 2021) Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (May 2021) Spider-Man 3 (July 2021) Thor 4: Love and Thunder (November 2021) Black Panther 2 (May 2022) Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (Mid 2022) Ant-Man and

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after the network column was added to the table in order to avoid repetition, but I think in this instance it's best to have a bit of repetition instead of using these two completely unknown titles that know one has ever heard of and that we don't even use as the classification of the series anywhere

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Once the Spider-Man agreement ends, any future Spiderman films are not part of the MCU, which in turn means that any other Spiderverse films are not part of the MCU. It matters not that the actor is still Tom Holland or that the Spider-Man is technically the same version. This of course can change if

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This is definitely related. I will find the video interview of Pascal stating that they are "in the same reality" with Feige stating that it was the perfect answer. Additionally, with the recent Marvel Studios/Sony fallout - Feige had wanted producer credit on the additional SMU films. On top of that

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than the other TV shows, because 1. they are an integral Part of Phase Four and directly tie into the films, and 2. they are helmed by Marvel Studios while the other shows are Marvel Television. Essentially, the other shows are expanded universe, while the Disney+ shows seem to be integral chapters).

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Alright, now a problem with the movie pages is the casting sections. Why, well the issue is that while characters like Obadiah Stane, Natasha Romanov, Ivan Vanko, Rhodey don't get their aliases in the movies they appear in (Iron Man 1 and 2), but however characters like Pietro and Wanda Maximoff from

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biography section is very problematic. I have started working on the Tony Stark page to try and make it mainspace appropriate in my sandbox, but it is not at a point where I would be happy to present it as part of this discussion. Basically, I support TriiipleThreat's position at the moment, but I do

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handles this better. I think the wording here was more trying to be brief since this isn't the place to be getting into all the details. I personally have also been wary of the line between what I objectively know happened (Disney was bated into doing it by the right-wing commentators, since everyone

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It seems that the Avengers 4 cinematographer potentially leaked the title being Avengers: End Game, which lines up with everything Kevin Feige stated about the project, and was quickly taken down, meaning that this certainly could've mean an actual leak. At this point, I think it would be safe to say

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I don't doubt the media focus on film more than they do TV - it sells more and it boosts the reviewer's status as well. To add to that, this is Netflix which is even on a lower-reviewer scale than TV shows are (Netflix episodes don't usually even get separate news articles). I don't disagree that the

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The MCU is full of LGBTQ characters, but their lack of representation on the film side could be noteworthy. Discussion on where such information could go will be required. As for the term "diverse", I don't know what the official stance on this across Knowledge is but I am personally against using it

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is a TV series, but it's content is still outside the canon of the MCU like the theme parks (at least based on everything we know today). That's why I think if we include it, it should go in this new column. As it is on the Phase Four article is ok because that is covering just the Phase and it is a

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It's a pretty fair assessment. Everything that can be said about Ghost rider is either duplicated later, or relevant to the only series that actually got made. Per "Room to grow" that is WP:CRYSTAL. When and if more detail will be added then a split should happen. We shouldn't spin-out articles just

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Feige stated "Spider-Man is a power icon" (not icons)..."and hero" (not heroes)...."He also happens to be the only hero with the superpower to cross cinematic universes" (not 'They also...only heros'). There's no grey area there. Secondly Sony has said from the beginning that the SMU is an extension

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The thing is if a show is within MCU canon or not. If it is, we list it in this article, if it isn't, then we don't. This "more canon than the others" is a byzantine issue that shouldn't be taken into account. Network and series is good enough, we do not need to go overdetailed with studios, network

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are listed in their aliases despite the fact that they were not named in that film. I understand why Emil Blosnky is called Abomination on the Hulk movie page, but to list the other two I mentioned? Their code-names are only named in interviews and merchandise, just like the characters whose aliases

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The scale of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is somewhat bigger than any individual superhero film series. Because characters cross over into films ostensibly starring other characters, there is a much larger information set to convey. With respect to each of these characters, there are aspects of the

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This wording is slightly shorter than what we have now, and mentioning "rape and pedophilia" makes this line really stand out from the rest of the article; doing so without mentioning the fact that he was making off-colour jokes (rather than, say, unironically belittling the problem of rape) gives a

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I don't think we should be implying in this article that Gunn's firing was the result of spontaneous resurfacing of "controversial tweets" (and especially giving out-of-context description of what was in the tweets -- Gunn was a shock-jock with a crude sense of humour, but that's not what the trolls

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Hi, I'm sorry to ask this but I was wondering if the release dates for the unknown MCU films after Avengers 4, Spider-Man 2 and Guardians 3 should be included to the list of MCU films? Temporarily listing them ("Unknown Marvel/Disney film") until Marvel/Disney reveal what the actual titles for those

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The media usually focus in the films and ignore TV, so yes, if this issue advances in the films it will be noteworthy, regardless of the TV series. Take for example the all-black cast of Black Panther. Why did it had so much praise, if Luke Cage already had one? Because one is a film and the other a

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hasn't even come out yet and it is likely that there will be movement on the Ghost Rider property at some point). I am also strongly against including a large detailed section at the list of MCU TV shows that is about one series that was never actually made when there are not even any details about

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I don't think one short remark in one interview is enough to establish this is "official", it sure isn't the common name (but I'm sure no one is arguing that). Giving the fact he was removed from any decision making and had the other series canceled, I very much doubt "Adventures into Fear" will be

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What‘s the source? I can’t find the quote, only that he emphasized that the Disney+ shows will be more connected than any prior show, but never outright saying that they‘re not “canon“ to the MCU. (Let me be clear, that I still am in favor of somehow grouping the Disney+ shows with the films rather

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The most television series are not part of the "MCU".This has been confirmed by Kevin Fiege. He just said "The television series are not the part of MCU(Agents of Shield and Agent Carter are the part of MCU as they have been connected to MCU in someways)". He did not specify which television series

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is a TV show dealing exclusively with MCU what-if scenarios. It is essentially the MCU version of "What If." Obviously Peggy Carter never took the Super Soldier Serum, but that's not important. The show's canonicity is irrelevant. You mean to tell me "this is the MCU version of "What If", therefore

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Those combined comic articles you mentioned do a bad job addressing all the types of the character. The film section is a small paragraph and has almost not actual information outside of casting. Also, while I understand some editors feel that in-universe information is trivia (/sigh), most readers

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To be clear, under the copyright law, all of Knowledge is considered "a work", so if these details are contained anywhere in Knowledge, it doesn't matter from a copyright perspective whether they are in a single article, or scattered across a dozen articles. In fact, the biography sections in these

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I did a quick one-over of the proposed Thor article, and I believe the only info that has not been content forked is what's in the "Appearance and special effects", "Characterization", and "Differences from the comic books" section. Everything else is simply copied material from the respective film

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Disney does NOT get the full rights to the Fantastic Four in the merger deal because Fox doesn't have them. Fox only has the right to DISTRIBUTE films based on the characters. The PRODUCTION rights belong to a German company, Constantine Film. So far there has been no word about what Disney intends

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With the recent release of Samuel Masters' Unofficial MCUTV drama series that he made as a non-profit fair use project reusing scenes from the Phase One films in a unique way, I thought it would be nice to include it in the Cultural Impact section of the page due to acknowledge the community's love

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I was thinking that with the voice role indicator for the film actors in the series, we could include that they appear "in the non-canon What If...? series" or "the alternate reality/depiction presented in What If...?", or something along those lines so we could acknowledge the MCU film actors are

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As I was editing the page and fixing some ref errors, I noticed that several of the cast members that star in the films who have Disney+ series are listed in the Recurring cast and characters section (i.e. Tom Hiddleston, Jeremy Renner, etc.), although Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman I noticed

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What? All of these WERE Marvel Television series, so how THEY grouped them is the most accurate at this time. And "Young adult" is a genre and the best classification of those two related series since they had connections between them despite airing on different networks (hence this classification

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I've gone ahead and changed "Marvel Heroes" and "Marvel Knights". Once thing in doing so, which I seem to remember now in the initial use of "Heroes"/"Knights", the network column is repetitive for both of these sections, and I don't think there is a solution to not include them without separating

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and classifications that make sense to the broad audience. One article about an executive and their inuniverse classification doesn't suddenly change COMMONNAME and result to confusing general readers. These are mostly terms that were hardly mentioned in relation to the shows. Even Defenders would

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Peter Parker, Stephen Strange, Scott Lang, and T'Challa appear in several more films (both their own sequels and other MCU films), they will eventually qualify. If the Black Widow solo film is ever made, she will also qualify. If Bucky Barnes or Sam Wilson becomes the next Captain America, and has

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I never understood the absurd reasoning of we don't need "separate articles for existing characters". The comic character is not the same as the character in a different media, let alone a character which has a rich history such as a MCU character. I'll add that that I think that this talk page is

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With some contextual editing all of this information could easily fit into existing articles. The problem is these articles have no filter. They seem to be an excuse to skirt around governing guidelines for film articles. We do not go into excessive details because they, including their plots, are

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That did occur to me after I proposed this. I believe that, since What If...? is included as part of Phase Four and we list it in the cast and characters section on the Phase Four page, that we might want to discuss its inclusion here given the official recognition it has been given alongside the

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I'm fine with "YA series" for Cloak & Dagger and Runaways because they belong together despite network difference... and I've always wanted a classification that puts together. But Netflix and ABC series should remain as such because that's how people identify them. And technically all Marvel

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Is the status column really necessary in the films table? Can people not find elsewhere whether a film is filming or in pre-production? Seems like a waste of a column and space if 80% of the column is just "released". Everybody knows that a movie released before the current date is one which been

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I don't get it, whoever edits that needs to fix his/her brain. MCU's first 22 films is indeed The Infinity Saga. Every media sources said that, even Kevin Feige recognized it, that was way before Far From Home is now as a conclusion of Phase 3. Not the first 3 phases. Repeat, Feige said "FIRST 22

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If the show is related to the MCU, then it belongs on the MCU TV show page. Simple enough. You might as well argue that the Marvel Comic “What If” isn’t actually part of the Marvel Comics Universe. That’s obviously not true, simply because the Marvel Comics “What If” ‘’are a Marvel Comic’’. Their

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By the way, my rule of thumb in creating these articles has been that the character must have at least one tentpole film (i.e., one that is about that character as the focus of the film), and appear in a half dozen additional films. The only characters meeting this criteria so far are Tony Stark,

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It is my understanding that in articles about works such as films, TV series, and books, we give a summary of the plot for context only, and are supposed to avoid overly detailed plot regurgitation because it would violate the author's copyright. And these character biographies are dominating the

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article currently has much better coverage of this. Yes, some (early?) reliable sources (jumped the gun and?) that imply this was not the result of a targeted, politically-motivated smear campaign (itself "revenge" for Gunn's criticism of the Trump administration) can no doubt be located, but the

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We can simply describe the concerns about the lack of diversity in the films, and the projects to fix it; and then point that the TV series already featured some of this stuff. Besides, if we have some source that points the obvious fact, we may also point that the lack of diversity was already a

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So I'll start this off. I would be fine changing the ABC and Netflix headings back to "ABC series" and "Netflix series". However, the "Young adult series" and "Adventure into Fear" should stay and not be changed to "Other"/"In development" because that does not accurately describe them, nor tell

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Prior to Venom's release, Sony did their best to capitalise on the buzz surrounding the Marvel Cinematic Universe by claiming that Venom existed "in the same reality" as it. It was a tenuous statement, and tacit repudiations by Kevin Feige - together with a lack of references to the wider MCU in

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is part of the MCU" on the fact that Marvel Studios is producing it, or because that Kevin Feige is overseeing it, or because the MCU actors are possibly reprising their roles for the show. That would violate the "No synthesis" or "no original research rule." I'm basing off of the Marvel website

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I kind of have an agree to disagree going on. The disagreement is that they are not notable on it's own. They are just being handled poorly is all is my thoughts. After all we do have multiple Arrowverse and Smallville and Gotham tv series character articles that are treated better when they are

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was trying to create a mock-up of the Tony Stark article in their sandbox of how I think you were leaning in your thoughts Triiiple. But I do agree that at the moment, these are just copying the bits of relevant info across each of the film articles and putting them in one article. I wouldn't be

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Even though all the series are considered canon, the fact is, that - with the exception of the upcoming Disney+ shows - they've been pretty much ignored by the films, with the sole exception of Jarvis appearing in Endgame. Kevin Feige also said, that the Disney+ shows will actually tie into the

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All of these characters have film character arcs discussed in the literature that span multiple films, or the course of the film series, and can not be fully developed in any single film article. Their character histories are distinct from the comic book character histories, with different time

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problem in the source material (the lead characters, Stark, Rogers, Thor, Banner, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Scott Lang, etc. were all white males in the comics to begin with, most diverse characters other than Black Panther are just secondary characters or legacy characters of a white male hero)

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Like the other person said, why do the movies have to meet those qualifications when the TV shows don't? By that logic, Moon Knight and She-Hulk (and arguably all of the Disney+ series for that matter since none of them have definite release dates) shouldn't be listed. But to be clear, I would

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confirmed. "you never know what surprises the future might hold" is ambiguous. It doesn't confirm that if Sony uses Spider-man it will be Tom Holland's Peter Parker Spider-man and not a different Parker or a Miles Morale's version that has no MCU connection. The "within the same reality" was a

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before the Venom release where producer Amy Pascal (who doesnt work for Marvel or Disney) claimed: "it’s in the same reality". It was part of a longer statement which Kevin Feige called "The perfect answer" according to the source. Feige was present with Pascal and they are coproducing the MCU

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Obviously "full" was an exaggeration. Regardless, it is clear that a lot of people do ignore the TV shows, and have been concerned with the lack of representation in the films. If we were being consistent with ourselves then the place for information like this would be here, but I am wondering

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It seems like these 'classifications' come from Jeph Loeb, who isn't even in charge of the Marvel television output anymore (since it was rolled into Marvel Studios jurisdiction). Additionally, dividing the table into 'Young adult' vs... 'Adult'(?) television series doesn't seem like the best

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A few users are continuing to try to add Venom and other upcoming Sony films to this page as "related films." They are not part of the MCU and don't belong here any more than any other non-MCU film based on Marvel Comics. There is a claim that Feige said they were related, but I can find no

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If anyone is in disagreement you can discuss at the list of MCU TV series page. Yes the series groupings comes from that article Gonnym linked, but they are from Jeph Loeb (not a media writer) indicated how Marvel themselves view these series, so I (and others) don't see an issue using such

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Holland starring in Sony-only Spider-Man films is not the same thing as those Sony-only Spider-Man films being set in the SMU -- for all we know a this point, they could keep those films separate from Venom et al. for now. We need to learn more before we can make claims in the articles. -

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I also support having film character articles. There will be some redundancy, which is not inherently bad, because the scope can be character-centric. Aside from the so-called fictional biography (which shouldn't be too detailed), the main characters have significant coverage. I've read

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We should wait for official confirmation. While it may have been legit and the latest iteration of a title they were working on, that doesn't mean it was necessarily finalized. If it was a slip of the final working title, the studio will likely confirm it in the next few days or weeks.

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Kevin Feige said no, and he outranks Holland. We may mention this on the "Reception" section of the Venom article (after the release, right now there is no reception to talk about), as long as it's clear that it's just an actor's wish and not an actual move in progress by the studios.

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I think we should rearrange the articles "List of MCU movies" and "List of MCU television shows" to "List of MCU Marvel Studios properties" and "List of MCU Marvel Television properties". It's seems that the Disney+ shows are being put on equal footing with the films in Phase Four.

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Spider-Man 'will not appear in the MCU anymore' but he will continue to appear in movies made by Sony. Variety announced Tom Holland will appear in at least two more Spider-Man movies, and that a Venom/Spider-Man movie is in development at Sony. All these things confirm that they

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I actually like the idea. It's pretty clear that there is a distinction between Marvel shows and Marvel Studio shows. Marvel Studios pull directly from the movies, while Marvel Television usually introduces new characters (with the exceptions being Phil Coulson and Peggy Carter).

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is not truly part of MCU. It's also going to have a lot of characters and different realities and alternatives which will make a lot of mess to the structure we have. So, we should remove it from recurring characters and other listings and instead add it to a separate section. —

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The issue is that these character articles are not providing any (unique) REALWORLD information to support the plot stuff. If we are not using their works to comment on them then we should not be using them at all. That is why a Knowledge article cannot be only a plot summary. -

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I also agree that we need to wait until this all shakes out and we see what it will actually look like. News reports vary at this time and we’ll find out soon enough how (or IF) The Sony films are going to be connected to the MCU. There’s no disadvantage to waiting for clarity.

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was aware of the tweets before) and what sources have been saying / not coming across as fan-ish. I have seen a few edits from users trying to use Knowledge to support Gunn and we can't condone that. It's just a tricky situation, but suggestions to improve wording would help. -

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Agree 100%, and might I add they need actual critical reception, not just accolades. Speaking of accolades, if these are meant to be character articles then why do these sections include accolades that are presented to film itself and do not pertain to the actual characters or

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I rather agree. A release date shouldn't be required, as long as the existence of the film is confirmed by an official source. Conversely, the Inhumans movie was officially announced with a release date and then didn't happen; it was just deleted from the table at the time.

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has elaborated that the franchises (which both producers have already stated take place 'within the same reality'), will have "'call and answer' between the two franchises as they acknowledge details between the two in what is would loosely be described as a shared detailed

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whether a little bit of rejigging is required since we are ending up with a lot of film-specific criticism at this article but trying to keep TV-specific criticism at the list of TV shows; perhaps we need to move some of the film-specific stuff to the list of films? -

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we have to date determined that we can cover all the issues related to the character in one article, even though all three of those have been present in comics decades longer than anything from Marvel and Lois and Clark were in film before anything from Marvel was

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shows are about heroes. So, it doesn't make sense to casual readers where ABC ones are the only ones classified as "Marvel Heroes." And I don't believe anyone ever referred to the Netflix ones as "Knights." I don't have a strong opinion for "Adventure into Fear".

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Noticed that the Blade movie featuring Mahershala Ali is not mentioned anywhere on the page despite being confirmed to be set in the MCU and supposedly is not apart of Phase 4. Figured it should be listed with Black Panther 2 under the Unannounced Phase section.

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I'm just curious, seeing a the whole Television section has totally changed - where are we getting the classifications of "Marvel Heroes", "Marvel Knights", and "young adult series" from??.. this is surely fan-page territory if it is not officially from Marvel

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Just a thought - with Feige stating that the announced slate of upcoming films/TV shows being the 'complete' Phase Four at this time; is there some way that the Disney+ series can be identified as official installments in the Phase Four? This is touched on

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Because by classifying them as “old jokes”, you are introducing a potentially biased point of view that is not supported by the reference. Why would you NOT “quote the source directly” if that is an option? Doesn’t that keep any bias out of the comment?

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related. Additionally, Sony has stated they hope to come back to an agreement with Disney/Marvel. Meanwhile neither Disney nor Marvel have made any official statements. It's a business tactic, to 'walk away', remain in silence, and come back for further

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It sounds to me that there is bias from the other direction here. "Old jokes" is objectively accurate. Another thing to point out is that this is just a summary of the situation since it is discussed in more detail in more appropriate places already. -

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better ones all contextualize it, and we probably should be too. It's also a near-certainty that Disney were aware of the tweets themselves, and Gunn's apology, long before July 2018 given that at the time of his initial hiring (which no doubt involved

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should not be added to the "Unannounced Phase" section. If we were to do that, all other Future films would need to be added, and that requires a larger consensus and is for a different discussion. I'd recommend we take the wait patient approach until

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actually read a character's article to read a summary of major parts of its story. Those articles have none of that and having such information for a comic/television/film all in one article will cause that article to be big, messy and unreadable. --

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is not an actual game like the rest as it was a limited time virtual reality event which had MCU actors in it and was produced by Marvel Studios rather than a gaming company, and is particularly designed to fit within the continuity but is not.

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Far From Home is not part of the Infinity Saga because it doesn't have anything to do with the infinity stones, as the first 22 films do, as quoted by the Marvel Studios president. Far From Home is merely ending phase three of the MCU.

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series and other spin-offs potentially. Then everything got canned. So yes, Adventures into Fear is now a banner of one. And as I said in my first comment, I'm against using "Other" or the like because it would not label the link to

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Good call. Perhaps this could suffice: "Characters in this section are those that appear in or have their voices present in non-canon material for animated television series, short films, theme park attractions, and video games."

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sequel, and Fantastic Four have all been announced to be in development by Kevin Feige, yes, but none of them have release dates set and there is no enough info about them to warrant inclusion in the section. The only reason why

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is a TV series and officially part of Phase Four. Adding a V for a voice-only role should suffice for that, in case the actor doesn't appear in any other TV series. We could add an "Other media" for the theme parks and stuff.

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The information is, in every case, condensed and consolidated at least to some degree. The character biographies are highly condensed from the large number of film articles featuring each of these characters (compare, e.g.,

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Ok in my edit summary I said MCU but I meant Infinity Saga. Also I meant Feige as “he”. Many more sources are saying that endgame is the last of the Infinity Saga so I feel like we should wait on the outcome of this due to

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somewhat different impression. I also think we should probably avoid saying "resurfacing" in articles where we are not mentioning the idea that it was a targeted smear campaign, since that wording somewhat implies that it

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I am supportive of the creation of these new character articles, as long as they are well made. Unfortunately, these have not been. Copying information from the different film articles and adding a huge, un-encyclopaedic

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articles are substantially shorter and less detailed than the plot summaries of the films from which they were drawn. On occasion, editors will add more details than I have included, which can be removed just as easily.

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is very likely going to be the only series that releases under that proposed banner. Until Marvel Studios absorbed everything, the Hulu series were going to be the spot for this banner of shows, including the planned

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with a small section about the planned Ghost Rider show (which won't get any bigger). That's is way overkill. Everything Helstorm related should be moved back to that article and Ghost Rider should be moved out to

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Absolutely agree. Someone has been reinserting these categories and I have reverted. One off handed comment that “we sometimes call it around here” is hardly definitive enough for us to establish these categories.

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the name. I think it's pure speculation on our part to call it that. I'm more ok-ish with "Young adult series" as that is more a descriptive term than an official one, but would also prefer it gone as well. --

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Black Panther cast did a great job, but ignoring the TV side of the MCU just because you seem to belittle it, ignores the fact that its inherently part of the MCU. Also, a quick google search provided me with

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The bigger question is if we need content forks in the case of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner etc between the articles on them as comic characters and in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. In a case like

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SHOWS The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Late 2020) WandaVision (Late 2020) Loki (Early 2021) What If (Mid 2021) She-Hulk (Late 2021 Hawkeye (Late 2021) Ms. Marvel (Early 2022) Moon Knight (Late 2022) ? ?

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are already discussing on how we can improve it. I am trying to expand with already used sources for verification at the time being but that's the hard part because the way the sources are scattered.

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films, but none of those characters have held up a solo film. I tend to think of Peter Quill as being the real star character of the franchise. Of course, these are just my own arbitrary benchmarks.

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Okay well you just dismissed everything I said and obviously don't understand what undue weight means. It's not fine to try merge that article into the main TV list, and there is no reason that we

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have made more sense to the readers than "Marvel Knights" since that was the Netflix team up. Either way, a consensus would need to be reached first before changing to unknown classifications.

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I believe What if... has been excluded from the table because it is not canon to the MCU. Much in the way the Guardians actors reprised roles in Mission Breakout or Rudd reprising the role in

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As I said above, the 2 existing links are at the bottom of the long article, which means that they may be of little use to those who don't have the time to read it. Other articles, including

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it's not part of the MCU"? That just doesn't make any sense. If the show is dealing with the MCU, then it is by definition part of the MCU, even if its stories tell alternative histories. --

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The NC tag I suggested is in order to include them in the TV series column. All of the potential Other media we would include (e.g. the theme park rides) would be non-canon by definition.

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doesn't have anyone attached to write or direct, nor does it have a release date. All it has is a logo. That isn't enough to add it to the table. As for the Disney+ shows, all of them but

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degree. Kevin Feige statded: "Spider-Man is a powerful icon and hero whose story crosses all ages and audiences around the globe. He also happens to be the only hero with the superpower

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From what I noticed is that you're right. They could at least change the info and use the same source. I will see with what I can do. I was responsible for some articles like these. See

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Change 'Spiderman: Far from home' to be part of the 'Infinity Saga', under the Feature Films section. No evidence to support this not being part of this 'Infinity Saga' can be found.

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There is no release date, so it should not be in the table. The full list of films in development that aren't dated and potential films can be found on the list of films article. -

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I think it's better to segregate Marvel Studios's shows from that of Marvel Television's. As Marvel Studios's shows will intertwined with movies we can list them as Canon to films.

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indication of that and no source is being provided. Until someone from Marvel Studios addresses these films and says they are related to the MCU, they do not belong on this page.

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so I just included them with that. I probably didn't get all of the outside media that could be listed there with characters, so if there's any others, feel free to add them in.

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It looks like Avengers 4 has been retitled to Avengers: Fallen Heroes here, making it multiple times this has happened. I suggest changing it back and locking down the page.

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which to me really doesn't seem to be sufficient for claiming that these are either the official or the common names for these. I'd be in favor of completely removing them. --

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Agreed, just because it's not "canon" to the current MCU timeline doesn't make it not part of the MCU, especially considering the MCU film actors are reprising their roles.

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If we added here, I'd be ok with a new column called "Other/Outside media" and then efn tags next to each actor for what it was. And we could bring in Mission Breakout and

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The expression “old jokes” minimizes and misrepresents the nature of what he said, putting it into the class of: “Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Then don't do that.”

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There is no confirmation whatsoever that Tom Holland will still be Spider-Man if the movies are only produced by Sony. His contract is up, he would have to renew it. --

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I agree. Changing "Marvel Heroes" and "Marvel Knights" back is fine, but keeping the rest how they does properly identify them per the groupings Marvel had mentioned.

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Perhaps a note next to "Outside media" would help define what "Outside media" includes. Does it include video games? Theme park rides? Animated TV series? Shorts?

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We shouldn't be adding movies to the table before there are any details or concrete plans for them. However, the dates are already listed in the future section of

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It has not yet been confirmed to be dropped from its' intended release. Once the year ends, it would likely be able to change, but for now, leave it how it is.

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the Wasp 2 (Mid 2022) Captain Marvel 2 (Late 2022) Blade (Early 2023) Fantastic Four (Late 2023) X-Men (Late 2023 Deadpool (Early 2024) Avengers 5 (Mid 2024)

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Disagree. All announced films should be listed. If your suggestion is to be the standard then all TV Shows without a release date need to be removed as well.

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Any editor is welcome to improve them. All of them now contain reliably sourced information of interest to readers that is found nowhere else in Knowledge.

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Even though a release date hasn’t been confirmed for any of the three you can just put TBA (To Be Announced) and is they are cancelled you can remove them.

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Spider-Man films so he is unlikely to publicly call her out to her face. But as far as I know, he or anyone else at Marvel has never called Venom related.

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Didn’t Feige himself say the first 22 films are a part of the saga? If so Screen Rant may be wrong in this case. I say we need a better source to support

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not the place to discuss "allowing" or not these articles and sending them to draft in their current form for not liking them, is not a valid reason (see

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Fair enough. I still think maybe just a sentence could be added to the "Films" subsection here, but I completely forgot about the separate list page.

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I CAN'T EDIT THIS BECAUSE THIS PAGE IS SEMI-PROTECTED AND I AM NOT APPROVED,BUT MAYBE SOMEONE WHO IS APPROVED WILL READ THIS AND EDIT THE MAIN ARTICLE

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Those have been duplicated to the outline from here. They definitely should be here as the idea of this article is to be about the MCU as a whole. -

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The "Marvel Heroes" and "Marvel Knights" headings in the table should definitely be changed back to "ABC series" and "Netflix series" as agreed upon

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Ant-man 3, Blade and Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3 Are ALL confirmed but NOT on unannounced phase, Could someone please reply to this discussion.

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There are multiple movies that have been confirmed by Marvel Studios that need to be on here. Below is what is confirmed. Please have this changed.

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would you want the What if actors in the "Other media" column as I suggested, or included in the "Television series" column with the NC tag that

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If it's part of Phase Four, then we should include it. Either that or remove it from Phase Four's Recurring cast and characters section as well.

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and makes this essentially an advertisement for Marvel Studios to the detriment of rival studios. I am not, of course, advocating the claim that

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Add Spiderman: Far From Home to phase 3 as it has been confirmed that it is the final movie in Phase 3, not the first in Phase 4 or the future.

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The article should include references, both planned/failed and real, to the MCU that appeared in other films and vice versa. It was a plan for

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takes place in the MCU (coming as it does from two corporate entities -- Marvel Television and Netflix -- that are rivals of Marvel Studios).

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Falcon & Winter Soldier is listed as late 2020, yet the given source (THR) says fall 2020. Distinction due to WandaVision nessecary now.

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Somehow, the References section is kicked up where it shouldn't be and is filled with bolded red text indicating errors. What's happening?

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a targeted smear campaign. To be clear, I don't think there's room in this article to talk about that, and I'm not advocating for such.

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their own Captain America film, they would qualify at that point. I haven't really thought about applying this thinking to the

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is included there is because it has a release date and writer/director, which are the qualifications for such an inclusion.

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Remember that one thing is the fictional universe and another is the real world franchise, this article is about the later.

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information with a few points about other planned series and room to grow if we get any more details (quite possible since

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These films have not been announced or dated so they should not be added to the table. They are discussed in prose at

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part of it as you mention. But looking at it here, I think we have to make that distinction that it is non-canon. -

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They appear to all not be a part of the cinematic universe (not the new MCU ones under Feige), have you the quote?

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New Warriors looks unlikely to debut for what is left of 2018 and the article should make this edit accordingly.

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I understand. I don't think however that there is any merit to that article. Almost the whole article is about

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Youtube channel The Daily Bugle has been posting a series of in-universe videos (mostly attacking Spider-Man):

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and other related films "take place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe" -- I don't even advocate the claim that

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I think that would be closer to a ride than anything else. Let's not include video games to avoid confusion.

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Perhaps a non-canon ref tag, next to the voice-only one. I just think it should still be under TV series.

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Is there a meaning to the colors used in the table of the MCU tv shows? I cannot find out a key. Thanks!

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have showrunners announced and logos, but the difference is they have a confirmed network (Disney+) and

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There is already at least one LGBTQ character in the MCU. Virginia Gardner's character Karolina Dean in

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sentiment from Sony that Marvel never reciprocated. Also the Deadline article doesn't say that there

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as Phase 4. For me, it should be noted in the "television series" column instead of "outside media".

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because. Also, there is no "undue weight" here for Ghost Rider. It's a small section. It's fine. --

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Steve Rogers, Thor, and Hulk. Future expansion is possible, depending on the direction of the MCU.

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solution either. It almost seems like placing them into groups of networks, made the most sense.--

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Would it be better if we added that they were "controversial old jokes", or something like that?

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in any way that does not make sense based on the actual definition of the word (for example, the

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include video games? That was the one item I listed I thought we weren't gonna include.

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Should I be bold? I thought I shouldn't because there would be objections, thus, this.

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Shouldn’t Ant-man 3, Blade and Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3 be in unannounced phase

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I wouldn't say the MCU is "full" of LGBTQ characters (without viewer interpretations).

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See also, References, and External links also repeat in this article for some reason.

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to add an entire table for something that is not actually a part of the main topic.--

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I do want to clarify something here quickly. I'm not basing my position of "Marvel's

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I disagree, it will only cause more confusion, as all of the shows are in the MCU.--

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I don't think that is a fair assessment of the article, it is almost half-and-half

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FILMS" not 23. MCU fans knows that already so stop confusing readers and the fans

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https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/franchise/marvel-cinematic-universe/

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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listed. That is the problem, it has become too inconsistent and needs fixing.

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states definitively that Holland has two more films in his contract with Sony

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To avoid repeating a similar conversation, don't respond here and please see

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Far From Home will close out phase three, not Endgame as previously thought.

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I understand that it may be useful to have articles for new characters (i.e.

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that are in other series and those that aren't while keeping them separate.

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Black Panther’s Success ‘Emboldened’ Marvel Studios to Tell Diverse Stories

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released, and that every movie with a future released date is unreleased.

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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/spider-man-far-from-home-endgame-mcu-phase-3

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Avengers Assemble!: Critical Perspectives on the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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readers where they will be going once they click the link. Additionally,

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It is, but it hasn't been released yet, so it's in the "Future" section.

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hasn't been officially announced for any phase. So, by these standards,

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sequels are in development.... all agree/confirm/solidify that they are

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To be specific, I'm referring to sections 2-8 (Feature films - Music).

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It's just a fan-edit -- there are lots of MCU fan-edits, for examples:

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out the ABC and Netflix series from the YA and Adventure into Fear. -

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if you disagree, please restart the conversation at the discussion on

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non-free works. This remains the same regardless of article type (see

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I had given my opinion on MCU TV series talk page and I was ignored.

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Kevin Feige Calls the First 22 Movies in the MCU “The Infinity Saga.’

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Still just a rumor. Also, the Russos debunked that title months ago

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Is What if? meant to be in the MCU as it doesn't seem to be canon

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Spider-Man:_Far_From_Home#Post-production

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was being referred to as the end of the Infinity Saga was because

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will also not set in the "main MCU". And the fact they announced

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is announced for a phase before we blindly add it to the table.

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is the end of Phase Three an 23th movie. But it isn't part of

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Thank you for fixing it and the gigantic Good Article image.

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would adequately address both length and neutrality concerns.

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http://whatculture.com/film/7-ways-venom-could-join-the-mcu

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I'll follow, but at this time, I agree with your summary

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGfq7EcxdrDN9hSo-iOaSxg

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That works. I hadn't even considered those beforehand.

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about controversial topics such as pedophilia and rape"

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Reportedly moved from early 2021 to late 2020. Source:

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I haven't looked at the Gunn article yet, but I think

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made. It would give a huge amount of undue weight to

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Disney/Fox Deal Includes the Fantastic Four After All

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TV series. It may be unfair, but it's the way it is.

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about that month ago, but I was completely ignored.

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Anybody know what's going on with the references?--

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