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lovE" has its capital letter at the end, so that's not really a requirement. If the poem were attributed to Cage or anyone else, of course, it couldn't be changed unless it were demonstrably misquoted, but since there's no attribution, I assume it was written by a Wikipedian as an example, and correction is allowable. --
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Worse than the lining, this is not a mesostic. There are two types of mesostics: 50% & 100%. In a 50% mesostic, there can be no appearance of the next capitalized letter between the last capitalized letter and the next capitalized letter. In a 100% mesostic, there can be no appearance of either
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Re the source of the article text: I believe the UPenn team took it from here, or both took it from elsewhere; they created their mesostic generator a year or two after I made and linked to mine (P.S. Meso; mesostomatic was the name of Matthew McCabe's program). And it looks like the article here
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I've also removed the final "o" (what the heck?!) from "modesto", which if capitalized is the name of a city in California, but which is not a synonym for "modest" in any sense. At first I thought it might be there to force the capital "T" to be in the "middle" of the line, but the line "tons of
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Thanks for correcting someone's peculiar typo on "modest". Yes, two of the lines end with the letter of the string (vertical) word, but I don't think that that is totally against the rules. If all lines ended with their capitalized (string) letter, then we might have an acrostic, but, again, a
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It looks to me that the article text is taken verbatim from the Mesostic Poem Generator project from a team at the University of Pennsylvania -- unless the UPenn folks got the text from Knowledge (it doesn't seem that way)? I'm a newbie to talk pages and editing; I hope this is helpful.
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The mesostic we're using was written by an acquaintance of mine. It was never published, but hung, framed, on the wall of the kitchen he shared with his first wife. He is flattered that it is Knowledge's example of a 100% mesostic.
295:, but there are references— they're just no good. What is "Cage 57"? Is 57 a page number? In what book? The title of a book by Cage? (I wouldn't be surprised.) A book published in 1957? Etc. ¢®@¶|̦ 264:... indeed the "about the project" page appears to be the source of the Knowledge article text (see below in References)? There is also the Mesostomatic Poetry Generator at 177:
letter between their capitalized appearance. I shall include that statement, in some form, in the article, and will try to fix the mesostic example.
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John Cage was not noted for his clarity of expression; on the contrary. I had no idea of what he meant by first and second letters until I read
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has been taken down, with a message that suggests it will not be put back up. I removed the link and added a new link to another one.
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The mesostic example should line up. This would probably involve scanning one and uploading it as a .png file.
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mesostic has rules (that an acrostic does not) about when the letter can appear as part of any word.--
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Badagnani
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03:54, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
James Nicol
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04:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
James Nicol
Thnidu
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04:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
James Nicol
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06:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
http://www.euph0r1a.net/mesostomatic/
Arestelle
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08:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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