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31: 168:-Pde, the death tolls for this vary hugely, some of the articles I quoted discuss the issue. Basically the estimates range from 20,000 all the way to 400,000. Many very well respected historians stay the number is probably in the range of 60-120,000. China's official figure is 300,000. It also depends on the area, who you include and a range of other factors... 115:
This was almost forgotten(Maybe that is true for people of other country, but Chinese will never forget this massacre, forever), but since 1980s, the Communist China has utilized this incident as a diplomacy card and to take the spotlight off from massacres by
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It is POV, both the original version and the annotated one ("Maybe..."). People's memory of this event is not as easily measurable as the statements above imply. If it is, provide legitimate sources to back up the statements.
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says: "Ms. Chang concludes that upwards to 350,000 Chinese lives were destroyed by the Japanese." What gives? Is Kagan talking about something other than the death toll? --
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The article says that Chang reached a figure of 260,000. But this page
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This is the 2003 archive. For more recent comments, please see the
141:, do you have a source we can cite for the 200,000 figure? -- 25: 8: 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 7: 24: 29: 1: 207: 184:. Should this be moved? -- 193:10:54, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC) 181:seems to be more common: 165:00:13, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC) 111:I removed the following: 145:08:10, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC) 125:01:10, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC) 134:sources of 200K figure? 42:of past discussions. 18:Talk:Nanjing Massacre 85: 84: 54: 53: 48:current talk page 198: 107:Forgotten memory 63: 56: 55: 33: 32: 26: 206: 205: 201: 200: 199: 197: 196: 195: 179: 174: 156: 151: 136: 131: 109: 104: 59: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 204: 202: 178: 175: 173: 170: 155: 152: 150: 147: 135: 132: 130: 127: 118: 117: 108: 105: 103: 100: 91: 83: 82: 77: 74: 69: 64: 52: 51: 34: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 203: 194: 192: 191: 187: 183: 176: 171: 169: 166: 164: 160: 153: 148: 146: 144: 140: 133: 128: 126: 124: 114: 113: 112: 106: 101: 99: 98: 96: 89: 88: 81: 78: 75: 73: 70: 68: 65: 62: 58: 57: 49: 45: 41: 40: 35: 28: 27: 19: 189: 180: 167: 157: 137: 119: 110: 92: 90: 86: 60: 43: 37: 116:themselves. 36:This is an 154:Death toll 139:PinkBotRX 129:September 95:Talk page 80:ArchiveĀ 5 72:ArchiveĀ 3 67:ArchiveĀ 2 61:ArchiveĀ 1 172:December 149:November 102:October 39:archive 123:Menchi 177:Move? 16:< 186:Jia 163:Pde 143:Pde 190:ng 121:-- 76:ā†’ 97:. 50:.

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