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There are gatekeepers, if what is allowed on this page is only what you judge as "useful" then that means there are limits to what edits, goodfaith or not can be made. I dont care who did what or whatever, from here on, I just want to help cleanup the page a bit. I have been stopped from doing that
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Spokane's population may not be diverse, but that cannot be a reason for criticism, much less "derision". It is a fact, that is all. I suggest that the unreferenced claim that "Spokane has been criticized and sometimes derided for its lack of diversity and multicultural offerings" be deleted. There
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I don't believe anything short of some codified text originated directly from the city council or mayor's office could make it correct to be described as 'official'. In the context of a governed realm, it is the legislation of that realm that makes a thing official or not. There is apparently no
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While this isn't exactly about the "Lilac City" Nickname, I think it was very relevant here, and so I wanted let you all know that I have updated the article to also mention about the the new nickname known as "Hooptown USA" and a little bit behind the reason. Also, I included
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