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Reading through the Challenges section of this article, it struck me that it was seeming just a long litany of exaggerated comments about how hard it is to be a stagehand. I'm not entirely sure this section is true to encyclopedic principles. but regardless, things like "tens of thousands of tons of
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Suppose, adding on to that idea, we made the list of theater personell kind of like the Stage lighting instruments page, with a small description on each and then a link to the main article. Then stagehand and Theatrical technician could be merged together into theatrical technician, as discussed on
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How is the determination made to merge Theatrical Technician into Stagehand as opposed to the other way around. I think Theatrical Technician is a more general term and covers all of those who work in technical theater as opposed to those who specifically work deck crew. In the usage I am familiar
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I think an important part of consolidating and making practical a major part of this article would be to describe the Theatrical vs Arena situation, and also to include tasks and roles of departments. Also using some sort of disambiguation regarding the rigging duties and roles vs audio, etc.
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Should this article still have the expansion tag? I'm not sure that it should. Also, I added an unclear tag to it, since I think it could use some help to the effect of the specific difference, especially in reference to previous discussion, between theatrical technician and stage hand.
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In Denmark the term stagehand is used to describe the people who help the technicians doing their job. Technicians have the responsibility that things are done right and in a safe way - the stagehands just do as they're told. Stagehands and theatrical technician are not the same.
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As I've said elsewhere, IATSE is not the final arbiter of terminology. The world is larger than North America. There must be a Knowledge article on how to resolve these kinds of issues. I'll take a look.
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I would base it on the fact that the union in the United States and Canada that represents these workers refer to them all as stagehands regardless of what department they work in.
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gear " and "climbing structures that are tens of stories high" aren't rooted so much in fact as fantasy, especially given that the entire section doesn't cite a single source.
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Thank you for the information BlueEel. That definately adds a twist to this discussion. This shows why it's good to have coverage from other parts of the world.
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in a section called "Theatrical Technician/Stagehand" and then just update that artice accordingly? --
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with, the lightboard operator would be a Theatrical Technician, but not a stagehand. --
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How about this as a compromise: Why don't we just merge both of these articles with
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Stagecraft
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Theatrical Technician
Stagehand
Lekogm
22:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Morydd
21:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Lekogm
21:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Bryson430
13:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
List of theatre personnel
Lekogm
19:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
KeepOnTruckin
18:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Lekogm
19:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
BlueEel
08:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Morydd
14:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Jpouliot
talk
16:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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