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European Super cup winner's medal because he never played a part in it.I want to make one thing clear a medal and a honour is different.For a medal you have to play in the final match and in that case Roy Keane and Paul Scholes have not got the medal but have won it because they had previously played a part in the competition.A medal is no proof that a player has won the competition its just an extra award.To get the English Premiership medal you have to take part in 10 games as a sub or regular from the 38 games.You then officially win the League Title and it is listed as a honour you have won but for the medal you have to be a part of the squad that played the game when the trophy was awarded.It means Louis Saha won't get a medal when Man Utd are awarded the Premier League trophy when they play Chelsea at Stamford bridge but he has officially won it but will not get a medal.Since the European Supercup has only one game you have to be a part of the squad to get it but since UEFA considers it to be an extension match then if you have played a part in the team's UEFA Cup or Champions Cup victory then you are listed as a winner of the European Supercup.The list in Knowledge list medal winners instead players who have won it.So yes Steven Gerrard has won the European Supercup and I am editing it right now.Hope this clears up everything.(3E933333Boy)
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and when I'm actually allowed back on, it'll get updated quite quick. As soon as I finish this message, I'm gonna' change the profile now so it's correct! I'ts actually naturally in my mind, the total amount of LFC first team official appearances and the total amount of first team official goals. At this current moment, he's made 337 appearances and scored 64 goals. Good record.
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I corrected it (ages ago) after it was not just out-of-date, but about 6 seasons out-of-date! I can be in charge of that, I'm the only one who seems to get it right! Right now, I'm banned off the computer, so it won't get updated straight away at first, but I'll try me best for it not to be too long,
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I'm not going to change anything until I've read further the rules for creditable and verifiable sources but watching tonight's game, as they lined up singing the
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Knowledge pages always rank very highly within search engines, and so adding a link to your site on the relevant wikipedia pages is a great way of increasing traffic to your site, thus making me always very cynical of such sites. It isn't just this particular
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Hi folks. When attempting to combat some rife vandalism of the Steven
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I am not "affiliated with this guy" nor am I "Gunner007". My contribution count does not affect my ability to comment on this. I feel it is kind of harsh to remove a link, when many other articles have external links to fan sites. But let's take your POV on the situation "If a fan comes to wikipedia
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I understand that wiki should not be used as a 'link repositry' but as long as new links are regulary checked and duff ones removed i cant see why a few fansites cant be added to the link section. Maybe a set of guidelines/rules for fansites would be a good idea in order to judge sites? In previous
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Official LFC profile and the BBC Sport profile - something that should have been done ages ago to be honest. Checking this page even with notifications is plenty enough work for me. Checking multiple links
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sorry, just to verify, you claim that this select few who would have only played in all four would come from liverpool, also thierry henry has played in all four for arsenal.just thought i'd include this after what is possibly gerrard's worst performance to date in a major cup final against milan.
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Look Gunner007, I've already told you many times that we're going to have a discussion, and YOU are not going to add the site yourself. Creating a second account, or logging in anonymously to add the site still isn't on, infact it's worse! David Kent, if you are not affiliated with this guy in any
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Not all fansites are relevant, otherwise we'd end up with pages and pages worth of links. This one may be pretty well done, but to list it as "Popular" is certainly very disingenuous. One glance at the forums shows that there's only 1 topic! As decent as the page is (and it certainly has a great
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What fansite do you mean? Provide the link here first please, so that its merits can be discussed. Please sign all your comments (with four tildes (~~~~)). Also note signing in to leave this message and then signing out to add your site isn't cool, not only was the site added by your IP address,
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is frequently updated and contains news on steven, england and liverpool fc . As far as I know it is the most popular and biggest of steven's fansites on the internet getting many visits from all over the world. the site is relevant and informative. ive added it to the links section, is this ok?
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I've deleted the line that states Steven Gerrard is 4th Choice england captain. There is no 3rd or 4th choice captain, only vice-captain. If neither is available then a one-off choice is made. The same for if the acting captain is substituted, the captains armband is passed onto a player of his
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From what I know any player that takes part in the competition at some time is considered as a winner in the competition.Scot Carson won one because he had played in the Champions League against Juventus.So I must say Neil Mellor has won the champions cup if he has played.Someone should edit
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I added those extracts and also at the time cited the News of the World page that contained them. Unfortunately said paper doesn't keep articles long term and so it has disappeared. After this happened someone else changed the broken link to "citation needed". I haven't actually read the
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you have a medal, that counts - e.g. you couldn't really say that Roy Keane didn't win the Champions League in '99. The main issue, I guess, is that these sort of things are not usually officially recorded, and are often hard to prove. But where it can be proved, I'd add it, with a
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the Euro Super Cup due to injury, therefore didn't officially win this honour. It's like saying Crouch and Kewell, who were both injured, or even an unknown reserve at that time winning it. They didn't, I must have removed this honour from the list over a half a dozen times.
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should be done is the page should be listed here, and a discussion had about it's various merits. Otherwise if we add this site, then why shouldn't we also add X, Y and Z? The over-riding problem here is wikipedia shouldn't be used to advertise yourself or your site.
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Only if you can find citation that says so. Otherwise it's unverifiable speculation. After all, just because everyone in the country whose surname isn't "Beckham" (rightly) thinks Stevie G should be captain, it doesn't mean he's necessarily in with a shoutĀ ;-)
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top League title stripped from them, and they also got relegated I think. But anyway, there's ya' answer. You change it how you want, just make it good! I'm amazing at a lot of history, especially UEFA European Cup history, and lots more!
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fact that you are simply using wikipedia to advertise your, as yet, unused site. Again, I'll say please don't add the site again yourself. Please wait until some more regular users vet it. I will remove it again pending this, cheers.
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In this part, it doesn't include this season's statistics, involving two games already. I don't know if they're only added at the end of the season, it doesn't make it clear, but it probably isn't, and I'm going to update it now.
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number of appearances/goals there, and so it is you that made the bad edit. I am happy for your effort in editing various Liverpool FC related pages, but you really ought to be a bit more careful and a little less angryĀ :)
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enough to make it worthwhile?? The site is informative, kept up to date, active, constantly checked, well designed??? Someone who was to come accross the steven gerrard wiki might well want to meet up with other
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Yeah, I agree this can't really be added. I think it'll either be Gerrard or Terry who gets it, and I do think McLaren will install a new captain as one the first things he does... make his mark n all.
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to help the clarity or level of information on a page. Is every date on this page linked? No. If I do 5 tildes does it give a linked date? No. Does saying "Steven Gerrard scored a goal on
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I've re-added the soccerbase link. It's not a fansite and it has a different kind of stat to the BBC site. You can see all the matches he's played and look at different seasons etc.
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looking for info, then I'm sure they're also able to google to find your fansite." Surely that would mean that all external links should be removed as "they're also able to google"
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which support my reasons. Your reasons of dumb, stupid and bold text does little to strengthen your case. In the light of this, I have reverted as per wikipedia guidelines.
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every day too? It isn't a realistic way to run things, and until I see you copy-editing and helping out I don't see that you can complain at me for not wanting to do itĀ :)
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