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419:- a piece of land on the East coast of Greenland disignated by an Eighteenth century French scientist as a 49-ers dream land where the golden meteorite should fall. His calculations were correct except for one simple fact, they were based on measurements taken from a school map which wasn't too precise. So, after he bought the land first and took a look at it later, he was disappointed - 90% of land was under water.
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Sudovia and Region are different units, controlled by Lithuanians in different time frame. While yes every article can be improved and expanded,
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