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Also to add, it would seem the one with the agenda is you. Trans people exist and have existed, that isn't up for debate. So if you want to start using facts, anytime would actually be amazing! Until then maybe consider why you chose to respond with an IP address... that speaks volumes. Stand by what
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It says that she was never known by her birth name, yet her birth name was a pretty notable part of the issue, especially since it is the name her parents used on the controversial media posts. That, plus it would be less confusing for readers to have a uniform standard for articles (even though it
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There are currently no citations for the introduction and the first citation (on birth date) didn't help to cite the claim. I imagine the citing was better before this article got featured but it's currently a mess. I made an adjustment for now but more claims need citing and the article may have
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Firstly, I should like to know who the "we" is that you keep referring to. Presumably, you mean "I", rather than "we". Secondly, it's abundantly obvious that you don't do things out of "respect". How about doing things out of "fact" then? The fact is that his mother referred to him by his legally
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I think for respect to the mother and the family (ct. from the mother: "My sweet 16-year-old son, Joshua Ryan Alcorn" his original name should be shown at the beginning near the birth date and the other name (as "born as Joshua Ryan Alcorn"). Legally speaking he never changed his name on his
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documents with his parents consent and he was considered a boy until his death. The fact that someone doesn't like it doesn't change the reality and the original name should be there at the beginning of the page as it is with other categories of people who change names or have nicknames.
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We don't do things "out of respect". The sources says that Leelah identified as female and that's what we go by. We're certainly not going to deadname her and use the wrong pronouns because her family couldn't accept her. That's for them to deal with. We only go by what the sources say.
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By Tuesday evening, Leelah's story had become a worldwide story - one of how transgender teens often feel alone and afraid. The hashtag #LeelahAlcorn was topping Twitter; news sites worldwide had picked up the story; and someone had even created a Knowledge page for
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correct name and gender, and her statement should not be changed simply because people like you find it distasteful and opposed to the agenda you're trying to push. I suggest that the mother's censored/fabricated statement be restored to its original wording.
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is the guideline linked above, as far as I can tell, which doesn't make any exceptions for cases where the deadname's widely discussed. In this case, given that this article complies with the guideline, it's probably unlikely that it'll be changed to
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Well, her suicide note is referenced as a source, so I'm assuming that that would probably be source enough. Most sources would have her identifying as female, any that identify her as male would just most likely be considered less reputable.
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I know this has been talked about before, but it appears that her deadname is not shown because she was never known by that name, however, this makes little sense and is not consistent with other Knowledge articles. For example,
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you say and take accountability for you antiquated beliefs instead of cowering behind anonymity. Do something of value with your life that isn't denigrating trans youth that lost their lives to suicide. Do better.
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was born William Blythe III, although he was never known by this name nor did he ever call himself 'Blythe' as he assumed the surname Clinton as a baby, his birth name is still rightfully listed on his Knowledge
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A. How about you reply to the correct person next time B. By facts she was trans, take your bigotry elsewhere please. If you don't enjoy the reality that is trans people existing, may I suggest you seek therapy?
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Her parents are a big part of the reason she killed herself... they don't deserve any respect in that regard.
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And that doesn't change the article in any way. She was a trans woman.
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