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and notice how the processor and laboratory automation cards are described as being in the 'computer' bin, and the SS cards are described as being in the 'synthesizer' bin. There is little documentation available on these cards, as their design was the unique asset of the Synclavier. However, their
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2) regarding the relationship to the Data General Nova, I've thought about it further and looked up the instruction sets once again. I've realized that when we used to describe the ABLE as being similar to a DG Nova that was in our fund-raising documents (as a term known to investors), rather than
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I don't know what you mean when you say Mix lacks a reliable source. You can try to argue that this Mix article is not a reliable source. There is no byline so its possible this is just a republished press release. We don't consider a source unreliable just because it does not list its own sources
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Regarding the enormous signal processing on a Synclavier and realization with mini-computer cards, you have an incorrect understanding of the Synclavier architecture. The waveforms are produced by the Synclavier Synthesizer cards (named SS1 through SS5). Each set of these five produced 8 mono FM
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I don't think the article reads like an advert. I'm deleting the link to synclavier.net (it doesn't exist anymore) and to the synclavier yahoo group, as it also doesn't exist anymore. I have "inherited" a full blown synclavier system and will get it running soon. From there, I hope to revitalise a
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I stand corrected regarding the first delivery of a Synclavier. My professor at Brown always told me that we bought the first one in mid-late 1978, but now I realize that Joel Chadabe had bought a keyboard-less one in September 1977. Ours was probably the first one with the keyboard and control
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I have a lot of information on the Synclavier, including boxed manual sets from the New England Digital days, as well as a PSMT Synclavier with polyphonic sampling, a Post Pro (Direct to Disk) and tons of spares and service parts. Feel free to contact me here for information and--while I'm not a
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3) regarding the three paragraphs of material on transfer-triggered architecture that you added in recent update, that is probably more technical information than a reader wants to know when coming to a page about Synclavier the music system. I would suggest that you prune that back, since the
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I think it's actually worth mentioning that there wasn't _A_ Synclavier, but a series of Synclavier systems from commercially available Synclavier II, 3200, PSMT, 9600 and PostPro. Since these systems were heavily modular, usually one could upgrade/advance system owned by adding cardcages.
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I'm prospecting for the designs of various campus made computers and early digital musical instruments. The architecture of ABLE processor seems provide important hints for how the enormous signal processing required on Synclavier was realized on the relatively limited computing power on
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voices (later variants supported stereo). The processor is only sending start-stop-setPitch-setParameter commands to the SS card set(s), as well as handling scanning of the keyboard and control panel. Hence this can be done with 1970's technology. For documentation, look at
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You can see how the processor is listed as being a "Register module" combined with a "Sequencer". Each was on a separate card. This was true for all models of the processor (A, B, C, etc.). In some cases a third card was added that was the multiply-divide unit.
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Better sourcing is always welcome but I don't see any errors in what is written here. It is well established that FM synthesis was invented and patented at Stanford and that Stanford OTL licensed it exclusively to Yamaha. NED had to get their license from Yamaha.
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The photography is actually a Synclavier I, which is a primarily academic system. The Synclavier II always had a keyboard, and the V/P Keyboard is an option for the Synclavier II, not the basis of the Synclavier II generation.
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I have NED promotional literature for the Synclavier II in my files, but I don't know if the use of photos from that brochure is OK here. I know of a system near me that I could photograph, but I'd have to get around to it.
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Does't anyone have a better photo of a Synclavier? They looked quite pretty, design-wise. The current one looks like a 1960 tone generator – no keyboard, no monitor... Are Synclavier company photos still under copyright? --
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structure was similar to other digital synthesizers of the mid-late 1970's realized in Medium Scale Integration (MSI) hardware. For a good overview of this field, see Foundations of Computer Music (
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the existence of "Scientific XPL compiler" derived from Data General XPL compiler, seems imply some relationships between ABLE and DG processor (Nova ?), and probably the NED's two manuals ("
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According to that source, NED's first product "ABLE computer" (dedicated processor for later Synclavier) developed in 1975, was sold for academic data-collection applications.
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Where is more Information about the 3200, 6400 and 9600 systems ? After NED developments like the PowerMac Interface ? Vitae about Cameron Jones etc ... ?
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The early Synclavier (then called the Dartmouth Digital Sythesizer) was developed during the mid-70's, at the same time as the Alles machine. See
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however, this magazine article itself lacks reliable source(s), and as a result, lacks verifiability. We need additional reliable sources on the
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Hello, I see you are following up on my edits to the information about the NED Synclavier processor. Thanks. I've done some research for you:
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The famous gong sound at the beginning of Michael Jackson's "Beat It" comes originally from a PPG Wave Synthesizer and not a Synclavier !
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synclavier user group, early next year. I'll do what I can to update this article then as well, unless someone beats me to it.
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as for multiple cards configuration of ABLE processor, it seems not inconsistent to above two descriptions and other sources.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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ABLE processor consists of 2 or 3 cards, including: "Sequencer", "Register module", and "Multiply/divide unit"
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representing the details of the technical design or its history. So perhaps you should just take this out.
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I don't recall ever hearing of Kate Bush using a Synclavier (she was always a heavy Fairlight aficionado).
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1) regarding the two-card design, the only online document I found that describes the card layout is at
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Thanks for your suggestions, and sorry for my late response. For each suggestions, I think as follows:
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According to Joel Chadabe's article on emusician.com, he bought first Synclavier in September 1977.
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I take it back; Dave Lawson programmed for her on The Dreaming and The Red Shoes (at least)!
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With respect to the architecture of ABLE processor, there are two descriptions on Knowledge:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110414131532/http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_dave_hard_drive/
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What? No mention of Gary Numan? His albums from 1981-1983 were loaded with synclavier
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article and its source, as possible as not inconsistent to your description.
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that the Synclavier System was "the" pioneer system in revolutionizing"...
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The intro says 1975, the body says 1977-1978. Which is it? Does the
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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