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such a unique sub-class of Quad skating that it deserves to be documented and a record of it's existence preserved. In order to understand how this activity merits special recognition one must first understand the physics produced by Quads, followed by an explanation of their application and effects on rhythm skating. A key ingredient and mover of this type of skating is the music. It mostly always has a prominent baseline and the aim is to synchronize to the beat. A spontaneous unrehearsed type of freestyle Shadow
Skating results. It is a non-competitive activity that is not concerned with doing "tricks". If anyone has done or knows of this kind of skating, your observations and input would be valued.
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Aggressive Skating link has been proposed to merge with Inline Aggressive Skating and renamed as Aggressive Inline Skating since it is the only subject discussed. Maybe some redirects may be helpful to find the articles on Aggressive Inline skating better?
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roller skate for a century, so I included quads in places where it seemed appropriate. (I am both a quad and an inline skater and have competed on both.) I expanded the quad section a bit since there is no page for quad skates, so until we separate that material out into its own article, it needs to
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Sounds reasonable to me. Technically the company says use "TRADEMARKS ARE NEVER VERBS. WRONG: rollerblading. RIGHT: in-line skating, skating." but I agree with reasoning. Someone can always change it later. I don't think inline skating needs a big link to rollerblade. The existing "frequently and
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Don't get me wrong -- I'd have no problem with it being a separate article, or distinguished from "proper, respectable" roller skating in some other way. :) It's a fad that may well annoy those who do artistic, competitive, or otherwise "serious" roller skating. However, I find it odd that there
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I de-wikified the Robert Henley link as it pointed to a completely different Robert Henley. I was going to write another article about the Robert Henley who invented the ball-bearing skate, then disambiguate, etc. But I can't find anything about Robert other than that he invented the skate -- so
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One thing -- the quintessence skates so prominently mentioned in the article? I did a google search. There are very few references to "quintessence skate" in Google (39 if you leave out dupes) and the vast majority of those are mirrors of this article. So I don't think the q-skate is one of the
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can equally mean the company/product or the type ("inline skates"). I propose that we make the company the "primary topic" in this case, meaning that (as you have suggested above) we have a "disambuguition link to Inline Skating at top. content describing the company and trademark
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Is it necessary to have that huge list of tricks? It doesn't concern those of us reading the article for information about rollerskates and it makes the article awfully long and cumbersome. I think it belongs elsewhere.
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so perhaps an article on Micajah, with mention of Robert's contribution, would be relevant. I can't write one today, but I will try to do it later, or if someone else gets to it first, and wants to do it, feel free.
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