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European wild boar is incidental. There are wolf packs with some admixture of domestic dog, and probably packs of feral dogs with some admixture of wolf; but I don't think anybody has suggested that that obliterates the distinction between wolves and dogs. No more should the occasional admixture of wild boar into razorback populations obliterate the distinction between European wild boar and American feral swine. Neither should the colloquial usage of referring to American feral swine as "wild boar" obliterate that distinction. They are historically different races or breeds, if not taxonomically distinct species, and Knowledge should recognize the distinction.
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Britain the line between "escaped" and "released" is as grey as it is elsewhere. Here there is an infestation of nutria (coypu) because years ago farmers were conned into buying them to raise for fur; when they found that that was not nearly as easy as they had been promised, many of them just opened the cages to be shot of the problem. Boar in captivity are hybridised with domestic pigs and then released into the wild to increase the fecundity of the wild population (which is one of the reasons Europe is completely over-run with the damned things).
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indicates that at least some (and perhaps all) feral pigs found in other parts of the world are razorbacks under another name. If we have one thing, it should have one article. Only if there really is a consistent difference between razorbacks and other feral pigs could separate articles be justified, but at present it seems clear that razorbacks are at most a kind of feral pig, and I think all the razorback material would fit comfortably into a section in
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Eurasian variety. I have no figures to cite, but my sense is that the number of actual Eurasian wild boar, imported to North America by rich hunters and released or escaped into the wild, must be vanishingly tiny compared to the generations of domestic swine run wild in the American South over four centuries of free-range swine culture.
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of feral swine in the world. The article should of course treat of other cases, such as in
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the US) then "reintroduced wild boar" is not appropriate for free-roaming wild boar. I think the problem here is that taxonomy and nomenclature have not kept up with the animals. A previous editor is correct in saying we do not refer to "feral muntjac", "feral salmon, etc. but perhaps we should. WP has articles on
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places, particularly on islands, there are feral pigs that are derived exclusively from domestic pigs and resemble domestic pigs in having short, fine hair. They are not razorbacks. I would have no objection to putting a section about razorbacks on a page about feral pigs, except that "razorback" also refers to
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Obscurasky off the fence, there's no reason why an article entitled "Feral pig" can't be primarily about American razorbacks, since, for historical reasons, they are probably the prime example
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when people can't tell the difference, and the article is wrongly focusing on word usage instead of what "razorbacks" (feral pigs) are and why they're notable. The thread immediately above this RM is entirely in support of this move, and the previous RM was as well, except for a sole objection, that
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With all this confusion on the origins of razorback or "feral" hogs, doesn't it seem likely that these pigs, though some could be hybrids, may actually be indigenous to North
America? That Sus Scrofa could've crossed the Bering Strait like so many Eurasion species, and could've been an inhabitant of
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This page is almost a duplicate of the wild boar page. Also because the feral pig and the wild boar are technically the same animal (both are Sus scrofa) feel like these pages should be combined. This article is lacking citations. It could also flow and and be better organized. This is an okay source
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The Hawaii section currently has four paragraphs, of which, only the first two sentences of the first paragraph apply specifically to feral pigs in Hawaii. The vast bulk of the information in this section only applies to mainland North
America. For instance, the last paragraph of the Hawaii section
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The phrase "reintroduced wild boar" is problematic. In the UK, if wild boar are free-roaming, they have not been "re-introduced" but they have escaped from a farm: perhaps the the phrase "have established breeding populations" is appropriate here. In areas where wild boar are NOT indigenous, (e.g.
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What is this word, and what does it refer to? In context in the article as it stands, it means "Wild Boar/Domestic Pig cross", but the word itself is a combination of the spanish word for peccary (Javalina) and the
Spanish word for pig (Porco), which, it has been pointed out, is very far-fetched as
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If razorbacks are indeed pure wild boar, introduced as wild animals to N America without admixture from escaped domestic swine, then yes, the articles ought to be merged. However, if they are mostly or partly feral domestic pigs, then no, clearly they ought to be separate articles. From the photo,
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Hi. I know you are that previous editor and please do not read anything into me not mentioning you by name; I have run into problems in the past by naming editors on talk pages, even though I did not post anything negative about them. I totally follow your point of view. My problem is that in the
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I agree that this should be mentioned in the article. As it is, it's confusing to have only pictures of hairy pigs in an article about escaped hairless pigs. This return of fur and tusks is a very interesting phenomenon, and the absence of any mention of it is confusing. I've seen Reddit and Quora
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I'm that previous editor. It's appropriate to talk about feral cats, chickens, pigs, horses, donkeys and the like precisely because those are domestic breeds which have, in places, re-established themselves in the wild. But we don't use "feral" of wild species, even if they have been been kept and
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article is misplaced there, and removing that might leave us with something akin to a stub. For example, use of the term in
Australia is generally meant to indicate a large, aggressive feral pig with a ridge of hair down it's back (hence, razorback). This is only my personal opinion after having
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Since the wild boar is not native to North America, any "wild boar" referred to as a razorback must be either one that was brought over from Europe or Asia and escaped into the wild, or the descendant of such an imported animal, or not a true wild boar at all—for as we know American feral hogs are
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On the subject of global scope... When I searched for razorback, the very last thing I would ever expect to find is an article about pigs, wild or otherwise. I was even more surprised that this would be the destination of a redirect for that word. Well, I guess I learned something. But what I was
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Thanks for the input. I think the criterion of obedience to human commands as an indicator of domestication is ...ermmmm...rather bizarre. Circus lions, bears and elephants captured in the wild are used in performances and sit, rear-up, bow, on command. I have worked with zoo animals including
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Interesting questions. I suggest that wild animals that are farmed would, like those in zoos, normally be referred to as "captive"; when they escape from captivity they are (surprise, surprise!) referred to as "escaped" (as above). We don't normally talk about "feral muntjac" or "feral coypu" or
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I have been expanding the article to include free-roaming wild boar in the UK. This is on the basis that in the UK, wild boar can only be farmed under licence and must not be released. When wild boar have been farmed, they will have been artificially selected for traits desired by humans, i.e.
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Fifty years ago or so, I visited my great uncle’s farm. He had razorback hogs. They were huge, easily twice the height at the shoulder of a common hog, and twice the length. They had a sagital rise on their spine that might have been a foot or more tall. They had a dinosaur-like look. Uncle
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I tried to clean up any uncited information I could find as well as any misspellings. I added citations for any "citation needed" tags I could find. I removed a few sentences that were irrelevant to the subject being discussed. I added 3 sentences of new information of my own with citations and
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As stated on this talk page in the following section, "razorback" as used in North America is ambiguous. It generally means a wild boar, or a hybrid between wild boar and feral domestic pig. The razorback is a wild or feral pig with a remarkable amount of relatively long coarse hair. In many
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Yes, there are or have been pure wild boar living in the wild in North America, but they are not native species. I think one source of confusion about native wild pigs in North America is the fact that North America has a native species that looks like a pig: the collared peccary or javelina
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I've not seen anything to indicate that there are any pure-bred wild boar in North America. Everything seems to point to feral pigs in North America being various mixes of domestic pig and wild boar, with at least some (and perhaps all) of them being called razorbacks. Everything I have seen
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I think someone needs to add the environmental implications of the introduction and continual population growth of Razorbacks to the Americas. So far there's just a tiny sentence about it being an invasive species in Brazil. In some parts of North America, wild hogs are becoming a big problem.
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I think the terms Feral Swine, Wild Pig, Feral Hog, and Wild Pig are all different classifications of the Feral Pig. Different state Department of Natural Resource agencies have them classified under a different name because there is no real official name established yet. Some states that have
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I, too, would support moving this article to "Feral pig". I don't know enough to make a scientific argument for that, but my understanding of the history is that razorbacks are overwhelmingly descended from domestic swine that have run wild over the generations, thanks to the old practice of
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move, but I'm not quite sure what the new term should be. As a native speaker of American English, I don't consider "razorback" to be the primary U.S. term for this kind of animal. (If you had asked me "What's a razorback?" outside the context of this page, I'd probably say "the University of
2606:, to the detriment of the other feral pigs, we can always herd them off into their own article again, with a link from the head article. At the moment, though, it seems to me that a stub for razorbacks would be little more than a dictionary entry, as SMcCandlish pointed out in the OP.
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expecting to find was a geographic-geologic-topographic article about a kind of "ridge trail" where one must hike along a narrow razorback ridge with steeply falling away slopes on both sides. That is the one and only use of the word razorback I have ever encountered before today.
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The pages should be combined is my point and the histories be taken and separated out. You said it yourself that they are the same species. If they are the same species then they should be on the same page and just have their own little section explaining the different histories.
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Richard New Forest wrote "So far it seems to me that we have established that all or most feral pigs in North America are called razorbacks, and there seems no indication of any difference between these and other feral pigs." That is not my reading of the discussion above.
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project. Your suggestion is very US-centric. Here in the UK, the term "hog" is hardly ever used, let alone "Feral hog". The term "Wild pig" is hardly ever used, nor is the term "Feral swine". The most widely used terms in the UK I suspect are "Feral pig" and "Wild boar".
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I like the idea of a Hawaii section, but it doesn't seem like there is enough information to warrant it. It seems like the general info (and specific information regarding other areas in North America) were shoehorned in to make the section large enough to justify itself.
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This isn't as clear cut as if first appears. Your point about the article being essentially a dictionary definition is valid, to a degree, but the article also contains information which is specific to the Americas, and as such it is distinct from other pages on Knowledge.
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Thanks Dmol. I actually lived in Australia for 12 years from 1980. I remember hearing the term "razorback", but my interpretation was that it meant a particularly large, aggressive individual, usually male, rather than a frequently used collective term for feral pigs.
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And once again, a "semiprotected" wikipedia article is full of bullshit. The line "Texas has the largest estimated population of 2.5–2.6 million feral pigs existing in 253 of its 254 counties" sources to a webpage that does not contain that number or any such claim.
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species, in which case it would include feral pigs other than wild boar. It omits several populations altogether: NZ, S America, southern Africa, Caribbean. Finally it does not seem to give any sources – I also notice it is not reffed where it appears on
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different from this article. There is almost no duplication between the two. While the Eurasian wild boar and the American (and presumably the Australian) feral pig are classified as belonging to the same species, their histories are quite different.
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Arkansas mascot.") In the Smoky Mountains and other parks near where I live, the animals resulting from interbreeding of wild boar and domestic pigs are most commonly referred to as "wild hogs," "feral hogs," and "wild boar." For example, see:
3267:, missing only the fifth "d" of dodgeball (defeat) in the description of a catch dogs behavior towards feral pigs. It is unsupported by the citations provided for the article and should be removed or replaced with a more accurate description.
2847:"feral salmon", I think. Domestication is a millennial process, not one that takes place over a few generations; but it doesn't necessarily lead to obedience: neither chickens nor cats reliably obey human commands – at least in my experience.
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I don't know enough about these animals to take up a strong opinion, but maybe DrChrissy can educate me. At the moment, I'm inclined to say that if the British boars are in fact domesticated, the escaped ones should just be called
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The video featured in this article is not of feral hogs, but of collared peccaries (javelinas). These are wild (not feral) and native to Arizona (the video is from Scottsdale) and they are not a member of the family Suidae.
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We must stop slang terms or terms which are used only in highly localised circumstances. The word "chook" is extremely widely used in Australia (and increasingly so in the UK), however, this correctly redirects to chicken
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I agree. The term "Razorback" is colloquial and used widely only in Australia and North America. This article is also extremely American-oriented. Therefore, I suggest we have two options. One - the article is moved to
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I appreciate DrChrissy's work here, and also the invitation to comment on the idea of "feral wild boar" in Great Britain. While I understand the point, I think it's confusing and imprecise to refer to escaped boar as
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The line about Dimebag using the Dean Razorback guitar should be deleted. He designed it, but he was killed before they could deliver the final prototype to him. He never used it in concert or on any recordings.
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giraffe, rhinoceros, hippos etc - many of these will perform tasks on command such as lifting their feet for routine inspection. Does that mean these individuals are domesticated or not? I do not think so.
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This article defines the Razorback as "feral". However the article on Feral defines it as follows: A feral organism is one that has escaped from domestication and returned, partly or wholly, to a wild state.
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article from terms like "feral pig", because they believe we have no feral pig article and that the wild boar one is the closest we have; I've even got people editwarring with me to keep falsely classifying
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Wild Boar (so presumably Razorbacks) do not meet this definition. They are the wild population from which domestic pigs were domesticated in the first place, not domesticated pigs returned to a wild state.
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I think you have a good point, but I also suspect it may be a complicated mix. Wild boar and domesticated pigs can freely interbreed, and both have been released/escaped into the wild at various times.
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So far it seems to me that we have established that all or most feral pigs in North America are called razorbacks, and there seems no indication of any difference between these and other feral pigs.
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European wild boar were imported to several locations in North America and released for the pleasure of hunters. This is discussed in several of the references that I cited above (for example,
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Is there any article, or document putting forth this proposal? The European colonists did not see any wild pigs in North America. Why else would they go through the trouble of introducing them?
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I have changed the redirect for "Feral pig" from the non-existent "Wild boar#feral pig" to this article. Apparently somebody (properly, in my opinion) deleted the "Feral pig" section from "
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Feral pig is the more encyclopedic name, and the current redirect is inappropriate since the vast majority of feral pigs are not Wild Boar, but are of a similar breeding to Razorbacks.
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Thanks, but they weren't "misspellings", they were just not US spellings. But there's no clear indication which of the UK/US spellings were there first so I won't change it.--
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article appropriately treats of razorbacks (as known in the U.S.A. and Australia, respectively, if there's any difference). If someday we find that the razorbacks are, um,
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Hello, in the last part of the intro, it talks about a mythological boar as being the possible origin of the name "razorback". I looked around and found an article on
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I believe it has to do with either their spine or the hairs growing along the length of it being raised into a ridge along their back, sort of like a natural mohawk.--
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1967:Portuguese
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3154:this tool
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2789:wild boar
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