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This is true, but it is not clear why a retailer would see this as an advantage. In fact, it seems to plainly be a disadvantage, since it reduces sales on extended warranties. A handful of customers would pay $ 10 for an extended warranty on a $ 50 product, but pretty much no one's going to pay $ 10
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to me. Please cite the sources where you "read several disturbing things". I have redeemed rebates that used these cards and encountered no problems at all. They are not "gift cards"; they are prepaid VISA debit cards. There are no fees and no overdrafts. When the balance reaches zero, the card is
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discount immediately, they can't hold on to the money during processing, there is no forgetting of rebate forms, etc. that are essentially free money for the manufacturer. What is the purpose of an instant rebate then, aside from being another way to say the price has been lowered?
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purchases, and don't eat up employee hours with long complaints; the idea that a retailer would deliberately piss off customers by setting them up to get caught on a technicality of the return policy is beyond absurd.
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