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Refresh rate but an equivalent is Response time". This is incorrect; while they do have response time and their refresh does not work as in CRTs technologically, they do have a refresh rate too which is I see here in the case of a laptop 60Hz on
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What is this from, some kind of projector? Beyond 800x600, 60 hz was never the most common refresh rate in use, so this 60 hz limit on this can't be that of a normal monitor. All I can guess about the "FH" is that it seems to correspond to the horizontal refresh rate of the different formats - ie
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Any flickering that the eye can perceive, even subliminally, can have adverse effects. So 60 Hz is a problem. 85 Hz and above is generally no problem. 72-75 Hz should mostly be kind of OK. But it seems that this does not apply to LCD because each LCD pixel has its own memory and can stay on all
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It depends. If the monitor is drawing a frame and the graphics card sends a new frame, the monitor will start to draw this new frame in the middle of the process. In the end, you'll have a full-frame that is, in fact, a mix of many frames rendered by the graphics card. That's why 'vsync' makes the
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Yes but the statement about being 'black'(implying emitting no light at all) is not quite correct is it? Why not say 'most of the screen area emits only a small amount of light due to the persistence of the phosphor' Also it may be good to mention the main effect here which is that of
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There is a certain amount of afterglow, but the vast amount of light is coming from the narrow band that has just been scanned. This comes out overexposed in this shot. If I'd lowered the exposure to see the area just being scanned clearly, you wouldn't see the afterglow.
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with new frames with objects in intermediate positions to where they were in the actual frames of the movies. The results can be VERY strange looking - it's like a totally different film shot with video cameras instead of film. The technology is something like what
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Even with LCD displays, low refresh rates like 60Hz can cause eyestrain due to brightness adjustment which changes PWM modulation of LCD's backlight (i.e. its not on 100% of the time). Too low brightness can result in sub-60Hz rates that will cause eyestrain.
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the time it takes to scan a single line. This is about the same for NTSC and PAL, double for progressive scan NTSC, PAL, and 1080i, and triple for 720p. But those aren't exact, so if that is it, then I don't see why this representation is useful.
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Most basic LED displays do not have memory, but strobe each location with rows and columns, with much flicker. There are probably fancier more modern LED TVs etc that do have per-pixel memory.
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I don't think that this belongs here, except as disambiguation. You could also have a section on how quickly various soft drinks end your thirst, but it is still off topic.
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Could someone make a photo of a refreshing CRT (with a very short exposure)? In the long term a diagram/picture would probably be better, but even a photo would help.
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of the coating on the tube face. This light decays very quickly after the electron beam has passed, and the subjective effect of a completely bright screen is due to
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Settlers 4 was once such game that tended to launch at excessively high resolutions. Thankfully, the ini file could be patched manually to allieviate this problem.
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It says that 60hz can cause eye strain but i would like it to go more in-depth, also will 60hz on a lcd screen cause any eyestrain? -(someone wrote sometime)
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These new plasma displays do NOT simply display the images in a more even pattern. They actually analyze the motion of objects in the film, and simulate
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In looking at different display's I keep coming across the same thing for video refresh rate 1 FH, 2 FH, and 3 FH. Does anyone know what this means?
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For example if I take CRT TV at 15khz of horizontal refresh rate who display 240 lines (progressive) I must obtain 60hz of vertical refresh rate...
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