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There should be real world content to accompany any additional split that is not simply a duplication of the main page's content (e.g., reception specifically for that season, or that episode; production information for the season or the episode), or duplication of the season page's content (e.g., an
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Some of the information I include in the season articles are copied and pasted from the parent article, only because it applies more to the season than the overall series. That information was in the parent article because there wasn't a season article to put it into. Once the season article has been
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The Bear is not an in-your-face, three-jokes-a-minute sitcom but it does have quite a bit of comedy moments and comedic scenes. But of course, we're not here to inject our opinion but rather reflect reliable sources. The show presents itself as a comedy-drama and therefore it is. Of course we also
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episode article that contains one or two reviews, and used the overall production information about the season that isn't specific to any one episode). This is because notability is not inherited from a parent article, and all articles must stand on their own.
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While it was nominated and won awards as a comedy, it's curious to me that it was defined as such -- and given others edits I see similar comments. Perhaps this deserves a new section in the article to address the issue of what genre this show actually is?
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As much as we can criticize the show for not being laugh out loud funny, it was still created and marketed as a comedy. Editors need to realize that "comedy-drama" isn't the same thing as a sitcom; it doesn't need to have a joke every 5 seconds to be a
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approved for mainspace, I remove the repeated information from the parent article so it fits the more specific place, which is the season article. I always try to expand this information and provide more sources to prove notability.
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I can honestly say the Drafts showed improvements from when they were first declined. Add a Casting section for the first season. Here is an example of an exceptional season article
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I have added the casting section, as well as improving other production sections in the draft. Are there any other aspects you would recommend I could improve?
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Expand the Development section such as information about executive producers and production companies that are involved with producing the first season. —
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as they were copied and pasted from parent article when they were first submitted to AFC. Season articles need to be standalone. I wasn't pinged FYI. —
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is another example of at bare minimum. Please do keep in mind that What's on Netflix is not a reliable source because it is a fan-operated website. —
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From an under-educated and very casual Knowledge person, I feel like the acclaim from say S2E6 and S2E10 (Fishes and The Bear) are worthy of pages.
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Again, season articles need to be standalone. They cannot be copied and pasted from the parent article because notability is not inherited. —
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Or why not might as well make Wiki pages for all the episodes? If someone got started on the first 2 (Review/Braciole), might as well, right?
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I agree, and am currently working on expanding the production sections. It would be great if you could help add to it in any way you can.
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There's barely any production info in this main article, that should be expanded before creating any further articles. Pinging @
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https://www.indiewire.com/awards/industry/the-bear-comedy-white-lotus-drama-pga-awards-winners-emmy-predictions-1234813491/
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
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Okay, but that again leads to the main question "How do you determine which if any episodes deserves it's own Wiki page?"
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There is also black comedy, which could very reasonably describe "The Bear," just as it did MASH later in its run. --
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If you want to discuss your reasoning for removing the paragraph related to this, please feel free to do so here.
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At the time of asking this question, only S1E7 and S1E8 (Review and Braciole) have their own pages.
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for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
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https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240116-emmys-2024-why-people-are-baffled-by-the-bears-wins
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cover properly sourced criticism/controversy around that designation with its deserved weight.
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No. It's gaming the system to avoid losing to Succession in the drama section. Not a comedy.
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An episode of a television series is not inherently notable simply because it has aired.
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and provide some specific feedback as to how I could improve it for mainspace?
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This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the
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Clearly this is a topic of debate that could be addressed in the article
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How do you determine which if any episodes deserves it's own Wiki page?
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Drafts for seasons 1-3, episodes and characters, and season 4 article.
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The season 4 article has been turned into a redirect, but there is a
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Thank you. I will work on improving the drafts to this standard.
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should contain. But at bare minimum, it should look like
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Done. Are there any other improvements you can suggest?
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This is a notice that I have created drafts for seasons
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