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checking for grammatical mistakes, overlinks, and just general prose issues. I will do some copyedits myself, but I will also post some here in the section below. For part 2, it may take a bit longer. I will go through every source individually and check (1) if they are reliable and (2) if the source supports the text accurately. I will post this once I'm done in the section below. If you'd like
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It's a very good site for league tables (particularly for league placings during a season as opposed to just the final table at the end of a season), and it would be disappointed if it's use on Knowledge is not acceptable. However, in this instance I've substituted in a source from ESPN which should
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Hi, I'd love to take this review. It's been sitting here for a while and I'm surprised it wasn't taken by someone else before. I can tell the article is well-written, has strong sources, and follows the appropriate layout. My review consists of two parts. In part 1, I go through the entire article
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NTV started off as a fanzine in the 1980s but has long since developed into a fairly respected (if still at times irreverent) Celtic-news orientated publication + web-site. Again, I would never use it for anything controversial/ debatable, but I think in the context used here it is more than
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Below are some of the things that need some corrections. The article overall is flows well (and there were some parts where I was excited to know what was next, especially with that late goal from Larsson. Anyways, one thing that needs to be fixed for consistency is the minutes of the match.
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Hmmmm, Parkhead and Celtic Park are kinda inter-changeable (both names are used for the stadium), I was trying to avoid over-use of "Celtic" in the same sentence, but for consistency in the article it probably is best to just keep using "Celtic Park" - Done (ShugSty
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find unacceptable (a certain cabal of editors here making the usual "grand-standing" and gesture politics you expect from the 'intellectual' left wing). Still, I have no say on that matter, so I will try to find alternative sources. (ShugSty
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He said "I was not present in Seville personally, but there were Fifa delegates there and, from the reports that were on TV, I can only say that this is not the first time that Celtic fans have presented themselves as warm and wonderful
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does not seem to be a reliable source. You use it several times; please feel free to disagree. Would you be able to replace it with a reliable source? I can do some digging to if you need help.
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Again, I've rephrased, but differently from suggested. Rangers are Celtic's main rivals in Scotland, so the fact Souness used to manage them was heavily publicised by the media (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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as a source several times. Its close relationship with Daily Mirror (not considered a reliable source on Knowledge) can bring you some headaches by some editors. Apparently there was a
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Explanation accepted. At the same time, the text is supports is about the media released after the final. If it is ever challenged again, I'm sure you can find a source replacement.
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Most of the sources are strong, and by using the Earwig's tool, I was able to tell that you did a great job paraphrasing most of this article and using sources to support the text.
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I've slightly rephrased to make it clearer - the phrase means that due to the magnitude of the score in the first game, the second game became largely irrelevant (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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have the same structure since it will read better that way. I like "th" the most since it's the one I'm used to, but I'll leave it up to you. Part 2 will come later, thanks!
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Site has been going since 2010 and I find it to be a superb reference for Scottish football stats. One of the co-founders (Bobby Sinnet) also is the author of
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I'm with you. I've sometimes wanted to use Daily Mail, but I'm worried it will get removed. Usually I'm able to find the same information somewhere else.
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for the similarities from the article and the sources. I made sure to copyedit the other paraphrasing issues I found as an example. The tool I used was
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thing. Is there a source you used for the box in "Celtic fans win awards"? I tried clicking the last one in the section and found no reference of
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I've added "..just before the end of extra-time"; he was sent off the third minute of injury time in extra-time (120+3) (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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or the Football communities of Japan and Korea Republic. Let me know and I can add it myself. I'm just thinking where we can put it.
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Sometimes you use " after 24 minutes", "75th-minute", "Two minutes after", "on 37 minutes", and "in the 27th minute". Makes sure
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Whilst I would always be cautious about using the Daily Mail as a source for anything controversial, I feel its the paper's
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Just fixed the close-paraphrasing issue myself. I'll take an extra look at the article in the next few hours. Big thanks!
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I wouldn't say either of the ties were particularly heated, but Blackburn made the mistake of doing too much talking
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a mile away, listing a kilometre equivalent seems clunky. I've wiki-linked the term "mile" though. (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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As with all the previous rounds, Celtic had the advantage of playing the first leg of the tie at Celtic Park.
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Of obvious note though was the fact that they were managed by former Rangers player-manager Graeme Souness.
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FIFA president Sepp Blatter also stated that he believed Celtic fans were the greatest fans in the world
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Wiki-linked "degree" to Fahrenheit and listed approximate Celsius equivalent alongside (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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Let me know when copyedit/paraphrase the close-paraphrasing matches and I'll take a look at it again.
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However, an opportunistic strike by Larsson in the 80th minute won the match and the tie for Celtic
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who then drove a swerving shot from 25 yards out into the top-right corner of Dudek's goal.
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regarding Celtic, "there wasn't one of their players that impressed me on that showing."
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Got it. If you have any questions about sources in the future, feel free to ask at the
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still compared favourably with European Cup winning team of 1967, the Lisbon Lions.
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Done, take a look at it land let me know if it should be there. ComputerJA
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I've not paraphrased, but I have cut down the quotation (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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rather than factual reliability that the "powers-that-be" at Knowledge
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in Scotland is reliable, just make sure to exercise it with caution.
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Former Blackburn striker Chris Sutton scored another goal for Celtic
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Great! I saw it was an amazing site, too. Explanation accepted.
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Celtic went into the first leg at Parkhead with John Hartson
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I found a source at RSSSF and added into the article for
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Yeah, you're right. Sentence rephrased (ShugSty 2/5/17)
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Celtic all but won the tie in the first leg at home
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