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627:, the US Copyright Office has specifically noted that dust jackets of hardcover books were not generically protected by the same copyright notice found inside the books themselves. Dust jackets from this time were required to display their own separate copyright notice in order to secure their copyright. This is a very different paradigm than copyright law throughout most of the world and in the United States since 1989, where these formalistic technicalities don't exist. For dust jackets published between 1978–1989, a publisher of a work without a notice had a chance to recover its copyright 1083: 548: 538: 525: 512: 499: 489: 471: 457: 443: 429: 416: 403: 566: 71: 1438: 1412: 1199: 1157: 1107: 785: 695:, and Mr. Dalí's oeuvre of copyrighted works won't enter the public domain until January 1, 2060 (70 years after his death). His prior, separately established copyright interest remains valid even if Random House as a licensee had fumbled their responsibility to attach any copyright notice. None of that applies where the 1306:
The journal became a member of the Council of Editors of Learned Journals. The position of editor was mostly held by John Wegner of Angelo State University from its first issue until about 2009. During this timespan, several other scholars stepped in to handle the role of editor as needed. The online
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an off-site high-res scan for reference. Note that this jacket contains two notices, "© 1985 Random House, Inc." (bottom of the back flap) and "Photo: 1981 © Mark Morrow" (back cover). Either notice by itself would have sufficed to protect the entire thing, as the law doesn't even require the name of
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s first-edition dust jacket cover is in the public domain. While I understand your hesitancy here based on the relatively recent date of publication, I am confident that it is in the public domain.In US copyright law until 1989, there were a few ways a published work could (often inadvertently) enter
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The first print edition of The Cormac McCarthy Journal appeared in 2001 and new issues were published on a roughly annual basis. The journal became a member of the Council of Editors of Learned Journals; the position of editor was mostly held by John Wegner of Angelo State University from its first
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There are four images used in the article. They are all relevant but I'm doubtful of the rationale for File:Suttree - Cormac McCarthy.jpg, since I would expect this cover design to be copyrighted. I don't think it is covered by fair use except in an article about that specific book (I understad the
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I appreciate your addition! And yes 0.1 does seem awfully low—I mean, it's quite literally the bottom of the barrel for a system rounded to the tenths place except for a flat 0.0. After you added that sentence, I curiously googled the phrase "has a 2022 impact factor of" and there looks to be just
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The first print edition of The Cormac McCarthy Journal appeared in 2001. The Society published new issues of the journal on a roughly annual basis. The journal became a member of the Council of Editors of Learned Journals. The position of editor was mostly held by John Wegner of Angelo State
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named entity is provided—so e.g., even though Mark Morrow didn't write the text on the dust jacket flaps, his notice alone carries all the required legal elements and it would secure Random House's copyright interest all by itself even if they had omitted their own notice (and vice versa).
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Each of those sentences carries a discrete fact attributed to each source and if I combined these sentences the sourcing of each piece of information would get muddled, or would be liable to become more muddled in the future with subsequent edits. I prefer to keep them disentangled.
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to Commons to make it easier to verify the lack of copyright notice, though note that I had to blur out some portions of text quoted from previously published sources, which of course were copyrighted separately and (more importantly) prior to the publication of the dust jacket.
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I take your point and I personally dislike it when a paragraph has a few references only at the end because verification becomes a pain, but if the referencing style affects readability I think that is an issue. I don't think much would be lost or made harder by doing something
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question about the Clarivate citations, which I've answered in part and Randykitty has answered in part, but you haven't replied yet so I'm unsure if you're satisfied with our response. Please let me know if you have remaining concerns about Clarivate or anything else!
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oh that's great to hear you enjoyed reading the article about the Securitas heist! I have replied on the image licensing and the citebundling. I've also added another query under references2. When these three things are resolved I'll be happy to make this a GA.
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To provide a little more info about how this aspect of US copyright law works, here's a counterexample of a work I once looked into but did not upload to Commons because it remains copyrighted: the original US edition dust jacket of
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I combined the first two sentences in a revision that's pretty close to yours. However I'm just not seeing a way to combine the CELJ and Wegner sentences. The subjects seem too unrelated to naturally blend, and while I'm not as
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An IF of 0.1 is rather pathetic, this seems to be a rather obscure journal (trivia like "one of only three scholarly journals about an American author who was still alive at the time it began publication" notwithstanding...)
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As of 2013, Blood Meridian (1985) was the most-discussed of McCarthy's works in the journal, while bestsellers like All the Pretty Horses (1992), No Country for Old Men (2005), and The Road had also received significant
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While there are many periodicals about specific authors, The Cormac McCarthy Journal was—as of 2023—one of only three scholarly journals about an American author who was still alive at the time it began
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with great interest when it appeared as today's featured article a while back, not having heard of the crime before. I appreciate the clarity and forensic detail you transmit with your writing.
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the public domain. Published works had to include a compliant copyright notice, or else the possibility of copyright protection would lapse instantaneously upon publication. As quoted at
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recommends omitting the publisher location when the location is included in the name of the publisher or periodical, as is the case for several of my citations such as those from
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Thanks for the reply. Your rationale does make sense to me, I just haven't seen it before and wouldn't say image copyright is my strongest area, so I'll ask for a second opinion
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nice work, I'll put this review onhold for you to answer the queries below. If you need to take more than a week, that's fine as along as we are in communication
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References are all high quality, there's a bit of inconsistency over using publisher location - most do, for example Peebles 2020 doesn't (and there's more)
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dust jacket cover in 1979 and then failed to register it by 1984, meaning any copyright interest in the dust jacket cover lapsed. I've uploaded
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doesn't verify "According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2022 impact factor of 0.1." and "Emerging Sources Citation Index"
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Not a pass/fail issue but would be great if you could add an alt description to File:Cormac McCarthy (1980 portrait, Lexington Leader).jpg per
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journal moved from the McCarthy society's website to the Texas Digital Library. Stacey Peebles of Centre College took over as editor in 2010.
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Anon. (n.d.). "Search ". Web of Science Master Journal List. Clarivate. Archived from the original on July 9, 2023. Retrieved July 9, 2023.
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and the Knoxville News Sentinel, the last of which had originally printed two of the articles republished by The Cormac McCarthy Journal
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in the 0.1 range, likewise tucked away in a niche humanities field. It would seem no one's talking about Cormac McCarthy as much as
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great the Clarivate query seems resolved then, so it's just the query about the short sentences. Thanks for working this through,
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I count just the one outstanding comment, regarding prose and combining sentences, to which I've now responded. There's also your
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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OK, you don't have to combine those two sentences, but if we take the rest of the paragraph it's still very jerky:
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I joined the two sentences about the 2001–2009 editorship together; let me know if you have further suggestions.
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they registered the work with the Copyright Office within 5 years of publication. Random House published the
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if you are marking eg Harris with a padlock for access, then others eg Monk should also be marked that way
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as an additional point, checking "Indexing and abstracting", I am finding some citations hard to verify:
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I agree that my usage of the image would not be covered by fair use. It's possible because the image of
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rationale for the other book cover). What are you basing your rationale on, are there other examples?
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Yes you are correct here, I had a niggling memory of a previous discussion about this and it
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earwig just highlighting names, will check for any close paraphrasing in spotchecks
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is in the Emerging Sources Citation Index; it is not cited for the impact factor.
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Hi! Thank you for your review. As it so happens I read your article on the
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so the image query is resolved, waiting for answers on the other two
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its central setting of Knoxville, Tennessee in October of that year.
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Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
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This is how I reference a journal's IF: <ref name=WoS: -->
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Great the second opinion is that the licensing is good :)
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This is actually not possible in the case of Monk. Check
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I'd suggest combining some of these sentences together.
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Paraphrased to avoid the need for in-line attribution.
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