Talk:The Tragically Hip

2303:"Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting." and "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." Simply because it meets the bare minimum of the notability requirements does not equate to an iron clad position that Knowledge is better off with a stub article than it would be with a redirect to a more complete article that has actual content. 360: 426: 626: 608: 462: 576: 1225: 1152: 1079: 1006: 937: 2049:; stand alone articles about albums and singles need to have third party sourced content other than track and chart placement, and most of the Tragically Hip albums and singles currently and for a long time previously fail to meet the criteria and should be merged into the article about the artist (or perhaps a discography article) until sources have been provided that do meet the notability criteria. 514: 490: 438: 350: 319: 710: 288: 190: 636: 524: 1354:

Hi 172.130.62.241 -- I've looked at the list and agree. While your list seems to be missing some singles (especially post-2000), the chart positions that are posted on the other list are completedly unsourced -- not to mention unlikely. Will whomever keeps posting this PLEASE explain their sources?

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Someone keeps posting an unsourced list of Tragically Hip singles. The problem isn't so much with the list as with the chart positions -- almost all the singles on this unsourced list mysteriously charted in the Canadian top 10. This list is wildly inaccurate, as a visit to the RPM charts site will

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The only reference to The Tragically Hip that I know of is from the Elvis Costello And The Attractions song "Town Crier" off of Imperial Bedroom. The lyric is "Other boys use the splendour of their trembling lip/They're so teddy bear tender and tragically hip." I always assumed this was where the

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criteria. The gazillion stand alone album and single article stubs that stay unsourced for years and years and years is proof that their existence is not an effective way attract sourced content- it just encourages more editors to create more unsourced stubs. Quantity over quality is vain goal when

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I think the re-write is done for now, more sourcing and info could be added to the earlier sections, but I don't have time right now. If another editor chooses to take up the mantle, please try to keep material concise and sourced, since the previous iteration of the article was just a random blast

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For the record, I'm downrating this from B-class to C-class. I don't know whether we were applying looser standards in 2007 when this was first rated, or whether the original rater was just being overly generous and proprietary — but there's just no way that this article, as it stands right now, is

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I completed this task, and merge/redirect is done for articles on four of the band members as was suggested in the main article. There was actually very little to merge given the lack of sources, and that is the big issue. The fact that the four members did some things outside the band can be added

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the members of the band who are non-notable save for their participation in The Tragically Hip should be merged to this article. The articles have all be long tagged as needing sources (up to 3+ years) and should not be left as stand alone, unsourced stubs about living people per numerous policies.

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I was one year ahead of Rob Baker and Gord Sinclair at KCVI (I have the yearbooks to prove it) and even jammed with them. I was the MC of the KCVI Variety show in 1979 so I know the two performed as The Rodents. I still have the playbill. Gord Downey did not attend KCVI when I was there but he

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Leave separate. When searching Knowledge for a person, I expect to be pointed to a person page, not a band. Facts such as birthdays, origin, etc may not be relevant in the band page, but in the person bio they are. In this case, I know he was in the band, I am looking for more bio info. Last,

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I’m just going to state flatly that this article is a terrible shambles of unsourced fan fanaticism. And that’s coming from a rabid TH fan of over 40 years. There are so many unsourced claims made in this “article” to be beyond embarrassing. Somebody needs to fix this because this “article” does

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I really, really do not like the wording of the description of In View. A song by the Hip doesn't have just one meaning. The song could just as easily, and even a larger possibility, be about his (Downie's) daughter, who he's wrote about before. I'm going to fix that up. I'm going to remove that

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So your talking about the 6 songs listed? Since most of the albums are notable, they just need a few more refs right - your ok with the Canadian Recording Industry Association ref?. Anyways we will work on the tags you have posted on the articles..Thanks for your concerns.........and pls stop

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Just like to point out that there was never a president of MCA named Bruce Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson was the name of the lead singer for Iron Maiden. It is also the name of a pretty obscure sound enginner who produced and remastered Blue Oyster Cult's back catalogue in the late 80's who the

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where someone mentions an old folks home for retired musicians called the Home for the Tragically Hip. After doing my own research on this, I could not verify either claim. I inquired about this with my professor and he says that Gord Downie told him this way back (but he has never verified

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Thank you for starting to add sources instead of simply removing tags. I have not yet had a chance to review the content and sources that have been added, and so I have provided a response to the question asked. And in response to your statement about Certified Platinum, I will keep repeating

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I do not agree with your logic at all. A stand alone stub article is no more inviting for an editor to add content than a small section within a more complete article which in time may grow to the point where the content can be moved to the redirect when it meets the

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I find this view puzzling, who are you to decide a stub will never grow! We create stubs in the hopes they will be expanded upon and in time will end up a great article! We dont go out of our way to impede the progress of articles by blanking the pages! Pls see --:

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And articles for Canadian albums and singles are required to meet the same criteria as any other albums and singles (or other articles): that they have recieved significant coverage by third party sources. A single source indicating chart position does not meet

2284:. The rule you keep referring to states notability as "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country."...all this albums are Platinum status and references added. Your saying the same thing over and over and we have fixed the problem!! 1721:

Sorry the "totally unrelevant crap" thing came out when I was creating sections and moving stuff around at the beginning. It wasn't meant to be POV, I had meant to remove it during the re-write, and the things there didn't seem relevant to the article.

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to their own Knowledge article just because they were part of a notable band, if we don't have any real sources that we can add to the article which are specifically about them. Granted, the band is famous enough that its individual members are

2454:. I have found a copy of the movie and saw no reference to the supposed scene with the name in it. I was told by my music history professor, who holds various degrees including a doctorate in musicology, that the name comes from a line in 2190:... "Low important articles" for all the rest, groups bands people, that have not seen any "Canadian Music Industry recognition". So what your proposing to deleted are albums that the project would most likely class as "Mid important"... 833:

Whoever put that the new track wouldn't sound out place on a barenaked ladies album is insulting the Tragically Hip. Also, I don't beleive that's anywhere close to NPOV but I thought I should give a heads up before deleting it.

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writers of Saturday Night Live lifted out of the band's liner notes for the more cowbell sketch. I didn't edit the article, but I doubt The Tragically Hip were discovered by either a sound engineer or the guy from Iron Maiden.

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for 3 separate albums). This albums may have not done well internationally, but have done extremely well in Canada and have been recognized for this with the following "Winning Junos" Canadas highest "Music"

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I take it Active Banana your not to familiar with the Hip..it is a shame this articles are so bad and mislead readers in the bands significances to Canadian music. Most album articles do have this references

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Is it really necessary to have such a lengthy paragraph about that one song? It would be sufficient to say "they are releasing a new album on such-and-such a date and the first single is such-and-such song".

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The noontime DJ for Edge 102.1 in Toronto played NOIS on the day of the hurricane, and then the next day, when the massive damage was more apparent, she did, in fact, say that were not going to play it for a

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Do what you like..all i can hope is one-day you will actually take the time to help find references and not spend your time tagging as many articles as you can in a day....Its not to hard to help!!...

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I dont think its possible to do them all...as mentioned above some have done substantial work outside the band, however i dont see merit in them being separate until the articles cover more info!!!...

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I know this is a kind of old discussion, but the reason the Billboard link is broken is because Billboard redesigned their site and their internal links. Allmusic, however, has the information here:

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Thanks! Although that dispute has been resolved with the introduction of a reliable source that confirms those numbers, that Billboard article could prove to be useful for similar statistics.

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