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is a rock band. Someone using caps almost always wants the rock band while someone using lower case might want the far less popular torture device or might be too lazy to use a shift key and so needs to click through a hatnote. Both topics are at their correct and concise natural titles, and the
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The downside is it's superfluous. My point is not that typing in the "ö" is likely or unlikely - just that it is intentional. Someone typing in the "ö" does not want any of the "ö"-less "The World Is Yours"es.
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What kind of 'oppose' is that? "If someone actually types in the "ö" ..." you make it sound as if it's highly unlikely they would. And sure enough if "If someone actually types in the "ö"
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