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suggests that no earlier use appears to be accessible to search in the Google books dataset. It does not necessarily mean that no earlier use has been found elsewhere — which is what the statement being deleted implies. Is Google books comprehensive? Do scholars familiar with the area agree with the assessment that there is no earlier use of the term? Second, this form of sourcing is a violation of Knowledge's
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First, I cannot provide the rest of the text, as posting that would be copyright infringement. If you'd like to read the book, I'm sure it is at your local library or book story. We are not required to only use online sources, and some of the best sources are only available in print. Secondly, you've
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I am deleting the statement "The first-found usage of the term is in the year 1856," which appears to be sourced to the contributor's search for the term in books using Google, for a couple of reasons. First, the failure to identify with a Google books search any previous usage of the term merely
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During the course of history there have appeared three types of rationalism: atheistic, pantheistic, and theistic. Atheistic rationalism appeared first in the early Greek philosophers: Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes, Empedocles, Heraclitus, Leucippus, and Democritus." Pantheistic rationalism is
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policy and has no relevance here. There is no opposing viewpoint, so there is no neutrality problem either. Adding a belief that aliens from another solar system were responsible for
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Similarly, while Franklin and Jefferson are regularly listed as deists, they did not believe in the fundamental tenets of deism. The key founders shared a common belief which
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And in any case, that's three people. The rest don't see "Theistic rationalism" as being separate from "Deism." Thus, it is a tiny minority and constitutes
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represented in Anaxagoras and the Stoics, and theistic rationalism ... (can't get more than that from books.google.com)
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a better for label for what Washington and other like-minded founders believed is theistic rationalism.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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If Auburn could provide the rest of the text on what Henry Thiessen said, I would appreciate it.
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The inclusion of a view that is held only by a tiny minority may constitute original research.
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OK, Usage of the term prior to the year 1856 has not yet been found.--
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This seems like a small group of politically motivated researchers.
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You're basically saying the same thing. What is your (new) source?
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Gary Smith's opinion. First, in the biography on George W. Bush:
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Who are the researchers that are studying this field
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