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there are good (and likely ethical) reasons to allow this, and to let the general public misapprehend the subject, even to the point of completely inaccurate translations of the very most simple, essential terms such as "God's". I don't really see why a non-native "Celticist" has to be prioritised over a simple dictionary with respect to such keywords and phrases. I do not believe the word "De" has evolved much at all over this long period referred to here. Most certainly it will not have "mutated" from meaning "God's" to "gods" or vice versa. I could find examples in the Irish throughout all periods in which these stories of TDD were recorded and De (with a fada) will remain the same. Would be interesting to establish where the error was first introduced into English translations (it may've been a simple error, the apostrophe being dropped from "God's" with the simple error then persisting. Ireland had to rewrite key elements of herself, we must be seen to have received "knowledge of the true one God" from the representative of the apostle Paul the Holy Father of the Roman Church. So Patrick is seen to bring it all. "Here Patrick, take these books and pass them back to us pretending they're yours."
1698:: "Strabo states that there was a highly lucrative Phoenician trade with Britain for tin via the Cassiterides whose location is unknown but may have been off the northwest coast of the Iberian Peninsula. Professor Timothy Champion, discussing Diodorus Siculus's comments on the tin trade, states that "Diodorus never actually says that the Phoenicians sailed to Cornwall. In fact, he says quite the opposite: the production of Cornish tin was in the hands of the natives of Cornwall, and its transport to the Mediterranean was organised by local merchants, by sea and then over land through France, well outside Phoenician control." 1736:
They're all false constructs, essentially. Don't let the construct of "deluge", that "planted vine" abroad get in the way of understanding it's not only that Irish claim roots in the Fhoeni, but the Fheni then trace back to Ireland. It's circular. There may not be "evidence" of a link to Ireland or Britain that is specifically Phoenician within narrow parameters, the further one goes away from "Phoenicia" toward Ireland the older the archaeological evidence gets (which contradicts the received wisdom). "Phoenician" sites near Cadiz are far older, I think, than those in the east Med.
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Kingdom, when the Phoenicians were swarming out all over the Mediterranean and beyond. Secondly, Phoenician artifacts have been found across Europe. They brought their Egyptian religion with them, especially the worship of Isis. Phoenicia being part of the Egytian empire which stretched all the way to Turkey, they were even closer to Egyptian religion than the Romans and even the Greeks. This resulted in the cult of the Black Madonna in many places. Lastly, the Tathe Dé Dannan were given Connacht. There are Phoenician objects found in Connacht.
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and Greek words, must be coincidental. The only references linking them are in popular "ancient mysteries" type books, which have no standards at all. Any reputable scholar writing on either subject would consider the fact there is no link too obvious to have to state. Popular books are full of gibberish about Celtic subjects, and it unreasonable to expect scholarly sources refuting them all. --
2030:. It doesn't need to infer that Danu is a godess, and it certainly doesn't have a plural "gods", but this is what it has been interpreted as by some. The current word Tuatha (country) actually derives from the original Tuatha, which you may recognise as the term used to describe the clans of ancient Ireland. This reasoning goes hand-in-hand with why the Old Irish term for the clan chieftain, 1984:
American source specifically was chosen is apparently because that is the first one that comes up in a Google search, and it hasn't been contested. If you can find an equally reliable source that contradicts this one, you're welcome to drop the URL here so people can discuss it. I agree that the rules sometimes result in odd decision being made, but usually they help more than they hinder.
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Danaos comes from Y of Indo-European provenance then we have knowledge of separate origins. Only then could we make the absolute claim that they are not related. Until then, they are not known to be relaetd, their relation is doubted, or scholars believe that claims of a relation are unsupported. If you want to say that, go ahead.
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Ok. Very fair points. Thanks for explanation. I thought my paragraphs were deleted at first. It's only a quick opinion here, but to quote a phrase from the 'good book', some take "their refuge, the lie". The custodians who descend from the former authors in the "primordial tongue" allow it. I surmise
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Your points are not entirely wrong, and it is a bit bizarre that an American source was cited for an Irish translation. Standard policy is that a translation most ideally be provided by an external source, if not, then by a native speaker, if not, then by Google Translate. In this case, the reason an
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The problem is that it wasn't a well-formatted discussion of the appearance of the Danann in popular culture, rather just a laundry-list of various appearances of the name. It added nothing to the discussion or understanding of the article subject. And it is not Knowledge's purpose to let people find
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Isn't the Tuatha Dé Danann in fiction a bit whimsical and unnecessary ? The fiction that is listed there has only very tenuous links to the subject. Also, there has been so much Irish fiction written on the subject (The DeDanann Isles series by Michael Scott and The Giltspur series by Cormac MacRaois
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named Danu. For that exact reason, Danu could just as easily referred to a King, place, etc. The "Dé" is the only thing referring to a god, and it just so happens that it has been decided that said god is more likely to refer to the "Danu" noun. We simply can't know it's complete meaning, everything
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I have restored the fact that the TDD and the Greek Danaans are not related. I don't believe it needs a cite, as it should be blitheringly obvious to anyone that any similarity between a misspelling of an Irish word and an Anglicisation of a Greek word, which doesn't exist between the original Irish
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case Danann. That's the only form that exists in primary sources, so we have no real myths for a god/goddess named Danu (most of what people think is original mythology surrounding Danu has been derived from other countries' mythologies), simply that there were a people who were the "Clan/Tribe" of
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To argue Tuatha Dé is "people of gods" or "tribe of gods" is pure nonsense, due to a deceptive withdrawal of the apostrophe. Should one wish the words to go in that order that is fine, as "people of God's." or "tribe of God's", but this not natural in English, where the genitive proper noun comes
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means "people of Rome" then they would be perhaps be making a false identification between the -an endings. But the question remains that the origin of Dan- in the Tuatha Dé Danann is unknown, and hence is not known to be connected to Danaos. If the claims of nonserious scholars (with which I am
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The list of appearances of this subject in literature was interesting and intriguing. An encyclopedia may list such references. It seems that a set of admins are on a crusade against popular culture and trivia. I will quote the list shortly but my question here is why delete the list instead of
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I've never understood how Danann could be about a goddess called Danu since the suffix of -ann is pluralisation, not possession. So if you say Danu owns something, you wouldn't say "danann", you'd say "(Gaelic word for object) Danu" Danann probably is pluralisation of Dia, meaning god. It's never
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I think it is highly plausible that the Tathe Dé Dannan were the Phoenicians. First, there is the settlement of the Peloponnese by the sons of Aegyptos and the daughters of Danaos, as mentioned by Herodotus. Danaos was considered the Phoenician. This is during Egypt's age of empire during the New
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This argument has been running for a very long time now. As I already said in the 'Tuatha Dé Danann in fiction' section above, I think this section is not needed in the article. 90% of the listed pop culture references simply name check the Tuatha Dé Danann and are completely irrelevant. It's the
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It would be the responsibility of the people adding the pop-cult factiods to justify that article's presence. If any element of any article is devoid of relevance or sources, it needs to go. My suggestion is based around the fact that this project inevitably attracts cruft; fine, spin it out, to
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Reply: I think based on analogies with other wikipedia entries that it's not out of place to have a list of uses in popular culture, especially when they link to other wikipedia entries. That said, I think the bit about the submarine could be shortened to just the first sentence, as it's entirely
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For anyone to believe that the Tuatha De Danaan are the lost tribes of Dan of Israel are incorrect. Dan is short for the Irish Goddess Danu(Mother Goddess) in other words Mother Earth as in Greece she is called Mother Gaea. You have to stop using imagery sources. We need physical written evidence
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I've removed the section 'Tuatha De Danann as the Tribe of Dan' - It was less than two lines long; and all it did was claim that British-Israelists believe that "the Tuatha De Danann are indeed the lost Tribe of Dan", and proceeded to link to a poorly-written 'debunking' article at a Bible essay
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In a similar way, the Old English "hund" is the precursor to the Modern English "hound", however in Old English it actually refers to any breed of dog. As languages change over time, words come to mean different things. This is why third-party translations, especially of atypical languages, are
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connected is description of a universal negative, which cannot be proven, unless it be shown that some positive fact makes the conclusion impossible. If so, that positive fact should be stated. If we can say that Tuatha Dé Danann is known to be derived from X of Indo-European provenance while
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The Fhenicians are claimed by the ancient Irish to be one in the same as the Irish. The Irish go by the actual name Fheni (this was crushed by Victorian age), the "Phoenicians" are a ghost concept, assigned to "extinction" by bishops, the Celtic "coat" was then applied over the "Fheni primer".
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I always figured it was "Tribe of Diana" and were a group of Greek colonists. They reportedly had flutes and harps, great archery skills, and advanced armor and weapons.They were also known to speak with another language and had great singing skill. It seem to me to be an obvious link to Greek
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As you know, our opinions can't be used in articles. The Phoenicians were not part of the Egyptian empire, nor did they share the same religion. As our article on them says, "The religious practices and beliefs of Phoenicia were cognate generally to their neighbours in Canaan" - see
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Agreed that the connection between the Tuatha de Danaan and the "Greek" Danaans is of the most tenuous. See Mark Woodhuizen's book on the Sea Peoples, to whom the Denyen were a later addition. The Denyen were the "Greek" Danaans, as the Ekwesh/Ahiyyawa were the "Greek" Achaeans.
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isn't a valid reason. I simply do not see the kind of merit necessary appearing. If somebody wants to write a well-sourced section/article about the portrayals of the Danann in popular media, that's fine. But a laundry-list of appearances without context or analysis (which must be
1856:"Who" is a relative pronoun which should refer to the nearest noun. That would be "Danu" the Hindu goddess. The Hindus are Indo-Aryans, not Indo-Europeans. If the Irish Danu is the parallel to the Hindu Danu, then instead of "who may be," use "to which the Irish Danu may be". 934:
requesting that people list references to enhance the relevancy of this section which you deem not worthy of this article? It seems a bit arbitrary and a whole lot like a campaign to prove yourselves right rather than allowing for the organic, useful growth of an article...
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series, the central character, Felimid Mac Fal, is descended from the Tuatha Dé Danann. Mac Fal has an ancestral sword, Kincaid, which bears an ancient curse: if it falls into the hands of anyone not descended from the Tuatha Dé Danann, that person will die before the next
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Old Irish is not my specialty, so i cannot specifically pick through exactly what you're confused about. "Tuatha Dé Danann" is Old Irish, not modern Irish. if you have a high-quality source that gives a different translation or explains the name further, then by all means
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Why is this article relying on an American for a translation of simple to understand Irish? Why is any citation, here, needed at all? One doesn't need a citation to establish the meaning of the English words "John's hat", or the Spanish equivalent of the aforementioned.
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What they said doesn't really make sense. They claimed "Dé" means plural "Gods" and also say it means possessive "God" and also mention clearly monotheistic nonsense. This is despite the fact god is Dia, seperate to Dé, and gods would be like "Dian" or something, not
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The Popular Culture section was removed as irrelevant. I'm curious as to how the decision on degree of relevancy was reached? Surely the section would be very relevant to someone who had read something on the TDD and wanted to find more in a similar vein?
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Can some one please insert Bres as Brigid's husband and Ruadan as their son. I have no idea how to figure out how to edit that stupid chart, but this correction needs to be made. If you need a source check out Gray, Elizabeth A. ed. & trans.
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ATTENTION. Which are the sources of this geanealogic tree? According to Lebar Gabala and Keating's genealogies, Bres was son of Elatha son of Delbaeth son of Dot son of Nét; than Bres was brother of Dagda and Ogma. Please, somebody control here:
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We have NO proof that they take their name from the "Mother Goddess". Like the Tribe of Dan explanation, it is merely a theory. It is worth noting that the Bible refers to the Tribe of Dan as seafarers and they were among the first to disappear.
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kind of fluff a section like that will attract. There are far more relevant items that could be listed but the list would end up being huge. I'm not opposed to a separate article on this but it shouldn't be included in this article. --
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If arguing, with respect to the late scribal addition "Danaan", altered once Christianity was universally accepted across Europe, is part of the genitive (possessive) noun "God's..." then the English should be Danaan God's People.
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Also, there are no prepositions such as "of the" . We can't just invent and insert non-existant prepositions (even if deceptive mistranslators have done, to fit an even greater mistranslation). They must be removed as false.
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Can we have the genealogy chart fixed so it is readable? I am a genealogist and even I can't make sense of this chart. A row of vertical lines that go no where is of no use to anyone who wants to understand the mythology.
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This article doesn't seem to list any sources at all. Other than that it's very good. Could someone add some sources in ? Otherwise one of those big "This Article does not cite any refences" info boxes is likely to appear.
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Many scholars try to "find" the roots of Tuatha (de) Danu through Hebraic occult nonsense about "Dan tribe", which was simply Hyperborean "Scynthian" (Slavic and also Irish eventually) goddess Dana or Danu...
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Can someone explain to me the reason for including this point in the first place? It seems to be blindingly obvious that the two are not related, and it takes up room in an already extremely complex entry.
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The deity refered to is the great God, the Lord Almighty, as was in beginning, now and ever shall be. People just buy into this garbled, pantheonic nonsense as they lack understanding of the structure...
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made sense to mean Danu. Tuatha danann would mean "tribe belonging to gods" whereas the dé, i believe, makes it so that it means "tribe of gods" (Collectively, meaning the members of the tribe are gods)
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To begin with, I've moved this to the bottom, because this is the convention on Knowledge: The newest conversation is always placed at the bottom of the page, as when the page is sufficiently filled the
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first. Actually the Tuatha De Dannan were never a mythological race. It was said during the Fifth invasion, that the Tuath De Dannan came on ships that blocked out the sun, either by sky or by sea.
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The removed paragraph should be removed as it is a valid assumption. Just as valid as the "Mother Goddess" theory. Was it removed because Knyght27 disagrees with it? Hardly a dispassionate reason!
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Maybe the best option is to spin the section out into a daughter article. I'm not a fan of these sections, and they are unecyclopedic, but this usually works leaving the main article unaffected.
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includes themes of Celtic mythology and the Tuatha Dé Danann in the Corum books of his Eternal Champion seriesc. In this mini series, non-human protagonist and aspect of the Eternal Champion,
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that is not true; languages change grammatical rules over time. what would've been grammatical English or French even 500 years ago is not necessarily grammatically "correct" today. anyways,
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Modern irish and scottish gaelic descend from irish and has the same rules in it. For example; icelandic descends from Old Norse but can still be used to understand old norse names and such.
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as enemies with the appearance of hulking, green creatures with antlers. They are sometimes led by 'Boss' monsters called "Bres". In the game, they reprise their role as enemies of the
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Dé is the possessive, genitive form of "Dia", in English, "God". That is to say it means "God's", and nothing else, most certainly not "gods" (with is neither singulsr nor genitive).
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So the "secret" behind this name "Danu" or Dana or Danica means "light"; "day". People think that Danica represented a slavic goddess of "Venus", but it represented a constellation;
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only marks palatal consonants, so I've followed that practice for OI. As far as the lenition goes, I don't pretend to have any detailed knowledge of OI, I'm just following this...
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very different in many respects. As with any translation, there is the possibility of mistranslation, and there have been alternative translations proposed over the years (it
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not familiar and in which I am not interested) are such that they need to be shown to be opposed by serious scholars, then that can be mentioned with some explanation.
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Dé is, as can be clearly seen, a capitalised, proper noun. It should be translated as such. Why is it not capitalised (Knowledge follows normal rules of grammar etc.).
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It would also make it really confusing why the name is "Tuatha de danann" which would mean "Tribe belonging to god gods" or "Tribe belonging to god, multiple danu's"
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The Fir Bolg are represented in the online game World of Warcraft as Furbolgs, bearlike, hulking, feral, tribal creatures with large bellies, usually wielding spears.
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I haven't read those sources which you refer to as ancient mystery books. If they were to claim that the Latinate Dana-an work meaning people of Danaos like
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Nominal inflections which brought about lenition in the following words, notably adjectives and genitives, are the nominative singular feminine, the
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I've added an attempt at the IPA that's as right as I can make it for modern Irish. The Old Irish pronunciation is more or less the same, except the
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among SloVenian people. The transliteration of "Wien" (Vienna) derived from the people of "WENDS" or "VENETI" (king Samo, king of Wends or Venns).
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According to a book read on the air by Dr. Gene Scott, the TV evangalist, the TDD are actually the Tribe of Dan - one of the lost tribes of Isreal.
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series of books, and mostly centers upon the Unseelie sidhe, who used to be gods, although they themselves were not always of the Unseelie court.
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To imply Dé means "goddess" is also deceptive nonsense. Goddess would also be "dia" with the prefix "ban" for woman. It doesn't say bandia.
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I've seen alot of reference to the Tuatha De Danann as gods, but I was wondering, has the comparison been made between them and the Elves? --
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is guesswork. Therefore, seeing as nothing can be definitively proven, preference has been given to the translation provided by scholars.
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No, it's the opinion of virtually every academic writing on these subjects. If you feel strongly about this, have a go at adding this to
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I think the main point here is that the notion of God referred to in this article has it's roots in pre-Christian Ireland. They suggest
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Before anyone goes to see if Rawlinson actually wrote that, he didn't. It is copied from "Genesis of the Grail Kings" by fringe authot
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website. Conjecture surrounding the Lost Tribes of Israel, though generally interesting enough, does not need a mention here. --
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article and added Old Irish. Note that these are phonemic (//) rather than phonetic () transcriptions. The transcription at
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The correct transliteration of this Tzarist / Goddesses / Deva was among old Slavic people from DON river (important) called
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A trade network that included Ireland as well may not be implausible. But we need sources for it. Currently our article on
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come instantly to mind), that if it was all listed, the list would be about five times the length of the original article.
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If you can find a reliable source stating that, then we can look at it together. It would have to be with reference to
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This isn't useful growth. It's the accumulation of silly little references, without any kind of context or analysis. --
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That article would likely be entirely devoid of relevance or sources, and would probably be swiftly deleted (see
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for this article as its inclusion will substantially increase the significance of the article. Please remove the
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unconnected with the history or mythology and links to an extensive entry of its own for those interested. --
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article which doesn't suggest it's Phoenician. Show me an archaeological source for Phoenicians in Ireland.
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conversations are moved to an archive. Do not move it back up, please, if you do it will just be ignored.
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To then imply Dé means both plural "gods" and singular "goddess" simultaneously is beyond ridiculous.
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who appeared after the magical awakening of 2011. They claimed Ireland as their homeland, renaming it
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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https://gatesofnineveh.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/high-north-carthaginian-exploration-of-ireland/
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I've given in to my frustration and spelt the name right. "Danaan" is not an Irish spelling.--
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grow and later die in a place where only the servers and speedy people need worry about it.
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The Tuatha Dé Danann (spelled Tuatha de Dannon within the game) appear in the online game
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players are referred to as 'Tuatha de Danaan' a slight variation of 'Tuatha Dé Dannan'.
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The Tuatha Dé Danann (spelled Tuatha Dé Danaan in the books) play a prominent role in
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Many times. Tolkien reportedly used some of the TDD myths for some of his material.
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may well be justified here. I agree it doesn't deserve its own section though.
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Dé means "God's" and nothing other than this, in the past and present time.
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But "scholars see no connection" is accurate and avoids claims of omniscience.
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The Tuatha Dé Danann, and the Fomorians (spelt Fomhoire) play vital roles in
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Would some nice person like to add how Tuatha Dé Danann is pronounced? An
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The Tuatha Dé Dannan also inspired a well-known traditional Irish band,
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The Tuatha Dé Danann are presented as a water-breathing species from
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The Tuatha Dé Danann inspired a Brazilian Celtic/Folk Metal band,
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If you listen to TV evangalist's you'll go along way : aye right
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been suggested that the Tuatha Dé Danann may be anything from
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