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is released. Is anyone interested in working this up to GA level before may? I"m fairly confident that we can turn this into a nice, mostly OOU article about the character's creation, creative teams' views and attitudes toward the character, public reactions, etc., etc. His IU isn't as awful as other
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First, the half face is the full face, someone just enlarged and cropped it. I prefer the full face, though I think someone should go in an crop it so that the top portion is removed and more proportional image is created. I understand where CS is coming from, the enlarged version looks good, but it
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I admit that the part about Dawes being a D.A. instead of an
Assistant District Attorney was completely my mistake. A combination of bad memory and lack of attention skills. But I'm not sure what you mean about the first line being wrong. As you point out, the film doesn't state the presence of Dent
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Do we need two per page? The DCAU boxes have spelling and functionality errors, and the characters are already described in the main infobox, which in the vast majority of cases is the 'original' version (that is, appearing first and being the source material for the softer kid's show versions). I
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I think that the sentence indicating his age (between "34 to 37") should be taken out. Theres no citation and besides I think his age would be closer to the mid forties. (ALong with Bats and the majority of his rogue gallery) Figure- Its said in The
Commsioner Gordan article that Jimbo's served in
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I prefer the image on the left. His face is more clear, the background is less intrusive, and it is closer to a profile. To my eye, the face taking up one-third of the frame works better as a single image, and it is less obviously a screencap than the second. The deep shadows in the image on the
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Thanks for your suggestion, but the editor who opened the poll has closed it, let's not start a long image war. It is a good image, but not right now. However, once the movie comes out, the page may need more images due to expansions. that would be a great time to add the image. (I happen to love
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One small error. During No Man's Land, Harvey Dent did not put Two-Face on trial. What happened was that Two-Face kidnapped Jim Gordon and put him on trial for his activities after Gotham City was declared a No Man's Land. Gordon played upon Two-Face's split psyche to demand Harvey Dent as his
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half-face, further, is representative of lousy design, and breaks up the natural flow of the page (It's a well known principle of figure drawing not to cut limbs off the page at joints, and to not do a flat half-face. limbs at midlimb or so, and faces should clearly imply that it's a full head.)
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I would venture to say that he is not...at least not in the traditional sense. When the coin is flipped unscarred side up, he generally refrains from doing bad more often than actually doing any good. Although the Harvey Dent One-Year-Later storyline portrays that aspect of his character as an
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The full face is more accurate for describing the nature of the character. Harvey/Two-Face is a man of TWO, not one, face. showing both halves is thus more factual. With the scarred side only, we could be talking about the very ugly OTHER Dent, Humbert Dent, One-face-But-what-a-face-it-is. The
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Richard Moll was cast? I mean, I know Dent looks Italian, since they wanted him to have a Mafia-esque voice, but was Pacino considered? Look how his voice is now, it's barely recognizeable from all that smoking he's done over the years. The statement that Pacino refused sounds like
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The only time I've seen Two-Face doing good when he gets the clean/undamaged side of his coin, was his early stories during the Golden Age (1930s-1940s). In those early stories (back when Gotham's DA was Harvey Kent) Two-Face was actually struggling with the good and evil inside of
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And I'm of the opinion that the "Abilities" portion of most character templates are too difficult to read. The powers are listed in paragraph form separted by semicolons or commas. Can't we put them into a list form for improved readability? Maybe even include some bullets?
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Based on the analysis of the original storyline, I wonder if Harvey Dent is an anti-hero. Depending on the coin, he does either good or evil, correct? The coin has to land heads up sometime, so since it has 1/2 probability, most of the time Two-Face does good. Comments?
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had the clean side in its first printing, and the later 2nd printing of
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First, I don't know that it's overwhelming, but it does appear to be a majority. Second, I'd like to thank you for conducting this in a calm and collected manner. Good editors are always welcomed on every wikipage, hope to see more work from you.
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states he's served on the police force for over 20 years, not identifying Gotham's. Gordon came to gotham from
Chicago's PD. Between the two, he's served over 20 years. He's served on Gotham's for far less, about as long as batman's been around.
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Captain Planet villain Doctor Blight has the left side of her face scarred in a similar manner, though keeps the scars covered with an overgrowth of long hair. She lacks the duality, though she appears to have already gone completely insane.
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contain the character's positive assets. I mean, you don't see "psychopath" in Joker's box. Or "dumb and stupid" in Killer Croc's. And is it really necessary to put "none" as an ability, just because Harvey doesn't have super powers?
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for two reasons. First, no character named Harvey Dent appeared in Batman Begins, so the first sentence is not true. Secondly, Katie Holme's character in the film was an
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The user Kchishol1970 stated that the French name of Two-Face is "Janus". In all French Batman episodes I saw on TV, he was called "Double-Face". Does "Janus" come from French translations of the original comics?
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right make the image less constructive as a illustrative tool, and busy the image with extra content. I find the background (a car window? a cafeteria door? a projection tv?) distracting.
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