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not support a club because i live in the football dead zone known as the West
Country where there are no Premiership clubs. Regarding Man City, I have tried to add stuff in there to give the views of fans that they think its unfair for balance. I don't really understand what you mean in saying that the article doesn't say what FFP does or its history, as that is explained in the early sections - again if you can add something that makes it better add it. Essentially FFP was agreed quite quickly and implemented in 2009 soon after the Man City takeover at the behest of Italian clubs who were dismayed at their reducd position and spending power, having always been the biggest spenders. Ironically Italian clubs have had sugar daddies since the thirties but could no longer keep up with the money generated by the Sky deal. I actually had a great article where one of the Italian club owners was quite up front that that was what it was about, but annoyingly i lost it. The section explaining the actual rules could be expanded a bit but it is awkward because the rules do change, and for that reason I added a link to the full UEFA regs for people to download. if you want to add greater detail by all means do so.
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European club championships. So while they don't donate, they get less money. I don't understand how this system disadvantages British clubs, the money counted as expenditure is part of real TV money in, so it is just as if they were given less money in the first place. Maybe at least the German situation (I have no idea how the Italian, Spanish and French systems work, maybe someone can elaborate) can be clarified in the article.
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Hi, if you have additional info by all means add it and if you think something is wrong then change it. But if you are a fan of a particular club you need to be careful to be neutral, which I fully appreciate is hard for some people to do because people are so passionate about their club. I myself do
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Cheslea owe the Russian shareholder loans. I need the original research report in order to know Deloitte use the football club itself to compare (ignoring the inter-group debt settlement) or use the whole group. (But such as Manchester United, the smaller group was Manchester United Ltd.
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