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321:"Press Release: Vector Avtech WX8 at the LA Auto Show, LOS ANGELES CA, The renowned automobile entrepreneur and vehicle designer Gerald Wiegert announced today the introduction of his latest creation - ultra-super-exotic vehicle trade named HPV for the 'Vector Avtech WX-8'. Gerald Wiegert, Chairman and Founder of Vector Motors Corporation, manufacturer of the Vector Avtech WX-8 ultra-supercar, announced today that the company will exhibit the Vector Avtech WX-8 at the prestigious, internationally acclaimed 'Los Angeles Auto Show' from November 15th through November 24th in Los Angeles, CA... 105: 95: 77: 316:...Wiegert's making good on recent threats to revive the marque with a new supercar. It's the Vector Avtech WX8, a prototype of which he showed off at the Pebble Beach Concours in 2006. Long story short, he's showing it at the LA show this week. Though the promises are familiar — a 750hp V8 and top speed of 260-270 mph (in Bonneville gearing, natch) — so is the boundless optimism." 50: 21: 392:, which makes it clear that the standard is an independent, third-party source making a determination of fact, not reporting hearsay that they found on the subject's website or from their press release, which is the case here. The provided sources explicitly state that the company (or more likely, Wiegert) is 192:
at Vector Motors. It was first shown officially to the public in 2007 revealing the development and the company`s ambitious intentions of creating a next generation sportscar successor to their previous models. Vector
302:" However, the metadata for each of the 9 photos proves that the dates they were taken were in April and May of 2008 -- more than ten years ago. There are no second-party sources that I could find to actually 268:
So what was the whole point of reverting all of my edits if your issue is just about past v. present tense? Also, the article was updated with recent developments on the car, in case you didn't notice. -
241:; I think you have me confused with another editor - all I have done to this article was close an AfD opened against it. By the looks of it a user by the name of Areaseven enacted the edits you describe. 328:. So, Vector was claiming ten years ago that the WX8 was "in development". The latest claims on Vector's website appear to be vaporware from a company with a long history of vaporware. 207:" (emphasis added) This is contrary to WP guidelines for grammar usage. If an event transpired many years ago, it is nonsensical to use present-tense phrases like "The Vector WX8 201:
achieve a top speed of 270 mph (430 km/h) and a zero-to-60 mph time as low as 2.3 seconds for the version of the car equipped with a 10-litre turbocharged engine. This engine
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reverted my edit. Please don't do so again without first attempting to justify your reasons here on the talk page, as per WP's protocols. Thank you.
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Nope. WP is an encyclopedia, not a collection of Tweets. If you can't manage to read 200 words, you have no business objecting to their contents.
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You seem to have some personal issue with either me or Vector Motors, given that you refuse to let go of this grudge after over a year. -
118: 82: 215:..." Ten years on, the WX8 is no longer "under development", and Vector hasn't claimed that "the WX8 may achieve a top speed" of 422:
Humorously, the claims are written in present tense; the company says the specs 'make the fastest production road vehicle ever.'
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The article, as I found it, was stated in the present-tense, as if it was still 2008, when the article was current. To wit: "
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standards for supporting such claims, the claim that the WX-8 is being "actively developed" must be removed.
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Can you just state your complaints or concerns in less than 200 words? Not all of us have the time to read
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sets the standard for a reliable source considerably higher than a claim made on a website, about itself.
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The Drive also expresses skepticism about the WX-8 actually being under development with language like "
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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of new development. Indeed, a brief Googling turned up such reports as this one from Jalopnik (
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Also, the article was updated with recent developments on the car, in case you didn't notice.
428:" Source #2 (a blog called "The Drive") states that Vector was selling two of its cars "... 294:" But a look at the company website belies that claim. To wit: it's "development" page ( 420:" Motor Authority's post even expresses skepticism about the reality of this car, with " 474: 460: 452: 396:
that the car is under development. Source #1 (a blog called "Motor Authority") states "
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Immediately following this editorial comment is a press release supplied by Vector:
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As for the WX-8, it eventually went the way of the SSC Tuatara, becoming another
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lists some pretty pie-in-the-sky specifications for its dream supercar..."
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As of August 2018, the company still is actively developing the vehicle.
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https://jalopnik.com/321943/blasting-from-the-past-vector-avtech-wx8
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any new development, they were all merely parroting Vector's
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We don't know if the WX8 will ever see the light of day...
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The company is still kicking the company however, and it
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will grant the WX8 a 500-plus-mile driving range...
56:This article has not yet been rated on Knowledge's 455:or other editors can supply sources that meet the 156:This article has not yet received a rating on the 290:" An editor (you?) added this to the article: " 8: 451:, and both express their own doubts. Unless 296:http://www.vectormotors.com/development.html 71: 49: 47: 324:" The date of this article on Jalopnik? 73: 509:Unknown-importance Automobile articles 449:the company claims to be developing it 7: 116:This article is within the scope of 402:a new supercar it's calling the WX8 62:It is of interest to the following 14: 136:Knowledge:WikiProject Automobiles 30:on 3 January 2017. The result of 300:WX8 is currently in development. 211:a sports car prototype released 188:a sports car prototype released 139:Template:WikiProject Automobiles 103: 93: 75: 48: 19: 26:This article was nominated for 504:Unassessed Automobile articles 1: 388:) doesn't seem to understand 130:and see a list of open tasks. 483:02:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC) 469:22:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC) 374:21:59, 13 January 2019 (UTC) 259:My apologies for my mix-up, 433:to fund development of its 384:The editor who added this ( 360:07:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC) 342:02:29, 16 August 2018 (UTC) 279:11:06, 15 August 2018 (UTC) 255:09:31, 15 August 2018 (UTC) 233:03:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC) 525: 380:Again, the article claims 158:project's importance scale 155: 88: 70: 119:WikiProject Automobiles 175:Present v. past-tense 350:-length comments. - 142:Automobile articles 445:American hypercar. 58:content assessment 437:WX-8 hypercar..." 326:November 13, 2007 322: 314:), which states " 219:for many years. 213:under development 190:under development 172: 171: 168: 167: 164: 163: 42: 41: 516: 408:Vector's website 320: 253: 144: 143: 140: 137: 134: 113: 108: 107: 106: 97: 90: 89: 79: 72: 53: 52: 51: 44: 23: 16: 524: 523: 519: 518: 517: 515: 514: 513: 494: 493: 242: 177: 141: 138: 135: 132: 131: 109: 104: 102: 12: 11: 5: 522: 520: 512: 511: 506: 496: 495: 492: 491: 490: 489: 488: 487: 486: 485: 378: 377: 376: 266: 265: 264: 221:user:Nightfury 176: 173: 170: 169: 166: 165: 162: 161: 154: 148: 147: 145: 128:the discussion 115: 114: 98: 86: 85: 80: 68: 67: 61: 54: 40: 39: 32:the discussion 24: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 521: 510: 507: 505: 502: 501: 499: 484: 480: 476: 472: 471: 470: 466: 462: 458: 454: 450: 446: 444: 438: 436: 432: 427: 423: 419: 417: 411: 409: 403: 401: 395: 391: 387: 383: 379: 375: 371: 367: 363: 362: 361: 357: 353: 349: 348:War and Peace 345: 344: 343: 339: 335: 331: 327: 323: 317: 313: 309: 305: 301: 297: 293: 289: 285: 282: 281: 280: 276: 272: 267: 262: 258: 257: 256: 252: 251: 247: 246: 240: 237: 236: 235: 234: 230: 226: 222: 218: 214: 210: 206: 204: 200: 196: 191: 187: 184: 174: 159: 153: 150: 149: 146: 129: 125: 121: 120: 112: 101: 99: 96: 92: 91: 87: 84: 81: 78: 74: 69: 65: 59: 55: 46: 45: 37: 33: 29: 25: 22: 18: 17: 448: 442: 440: 434: 430: 429: 425: 421: 415: 414:All of this 413: 407: 405: 399: 397: 393: 381: 347: 325: 319: 315: 307: 303: 299: 291: 287: 249: 244: 216: 212: 208: 205:described... 202: 198: 194: 189: 185: 182: 180: 178: 117: 64:WikiProjects 35: 133:Automobiles 124:automobiles 111:Cars portal 83:Automobiles 498:Categories 431:apparently 183:Vector WX8 475:Areaseven 461:Bricology 453:Areaseven 443:vaporware 416:allegedly 386:Areaseven 366:Bricology 352:Areaseven 334:Bricology 284:Areaseven 271:Areaseven 261:Nightfury 239:Bricology 225:Bricology 394:claiming 217:anything 197:the WX8 28:deletion 435:planned 424:" and " 404:" and " 304:confirm 286:wrote " 308:claims 195:claims 60:scale. 457:WP:RS 412:and " 400:plans 390:WP:RS 330:WP:RS 245:Night 479:talk 465:talk 370:talk 356:talk 338:talk 275:talk 250:fury 229:talk 181:The 36:keep 34:was 406:... 199:may 152:??? 500:: 481:) 467:) 372:) 358:) 340:) 277:) 231:) 209:is 203:is 186:is 477:( 463:( 368:( 354:( 336:( 273:( 263:. 227:( 160:. 66:: 38:.

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