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My reason for preferring the original hook is that is has an element of irony and is primarily about Austin Friars. The alternative hooks are primarily about Thomas
Cromwell (do we really need to know when he was executed?). On top of that we now have a picture of Thomas Cromwell, rather than one of
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I prefer the original tagline, which is more about the Friary than Thomas
Cromwell. The 'Did You Know' should be about the Austin Friars, after all. I'm also a bit uncomfortable that the article is almost entirely based on an unpublished PhD thesis (and the information about Cromwell was obtained
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The fact about his residence also needs citing and explaining where the house was located. Presumably not in the Friary itself? The Friary owned land in 3 different parishes, it seems. Maybe the 'hook' needs amending to "that Henry VIII's adviser, Thomas
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Cromwell lived in a house built on land leased from the Friary. It states the Friary was dissolved in 1538, but not by whom.
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Although it doesn't address the sourcing, it is possible to combine the two hook approaches into one and just remain under the 200 character limit. (If "powerful" was sacrificed, it could be even shorter.) Here's an
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