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attractive for my taste: "... common dish and food pairing in American cuisine, the cuisine of New York City and American Jewish cuisine". - I went ahead and altered the headers, finding cuisine and mass production a contradiction in terms ;) - In the article, do we need the ref in the lead? (should better be in the body) - I'd be happier without the See also section. Can you make the note part of the text? (get's easily overlooked down there) --
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ps: all entries in the further reading section appear with fat messages (to me) that they are not used as references. Do you want to use them? If not omit the ref-para. Another idea: saying in the hook "the food pairing b + cc is" might avoid the grammar confusion that after b + cc you expect "are",
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states that the dish "...had saturated the culture." I didn't want to use the word "saturated" because this would be close paraphrasing. When a food dish literally saturates a culture, I feel that it is worthy of inclusion in a hook, whereas omission of this would make the hook less interesting and
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Solid article, not many surprises, on plenty of sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and appetite-wetting. I am less happy with the hook. What does the "permeated" thing add? How interesting is "very popular", at whatever time? I liked some of the names, and just the lead reads more
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Please don't misunderstand; there are criteria for DYK, and there helpful comments, at least trying to be helpful. Thanks for action, I would approve even without, but
372: 256: 182: 88: 36: 264:). It's unclear why you're "unhappy" with the See also section, but I find the links useful, directly related to the topic, and on par with 17: 268:. I prefer the note where it is at, in the Notes section. The sources in the Further reading section are in full compliance with 272:, and can assist readers to learn more about the article subject. I removed the ref markup within them as suggested above ( 339:"Pervaded" and "permeated" are both fine by me. I prefer "permeated". I'd rather do this than using a quote in the hook. 159: 44: 40: 210: 143: 269: 83: 327:
Other thought: we have to paraphrase in the article, but couldn't we use what the source says in the hook? --
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was very popular in the United States in the early 1950s, having permeated American culture?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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less informative. I removed the citations from the lead (
273: 261: 148: 108: 251:I feel that this review is way too strict, as per 213:). Self-nominated at 07:52, 18 July 2017 (UTC). 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 71: 74: 373:Passed DYK nominations from July 2017 7: 24: 18:Template:Did you know nominations 289: 220: 158: 32:Please do not modify this page. 1: 335:) 19:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC) 324:) 19:03, 23 July 2017 (UTC) 306:) 07:18, 23 July 2017 (UTC) 248:) 14:45, 22 July 2017 (UTC) 234:) 14:09, 22 July 2017 (UTC) 68:) 06:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC) 45:Knowledge talk:Did you know 37:this nomination's talk page 389: 345:08:58, 24 July 2017 (UTC) 282:06:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC) 119:Find sources (notability) 94:Earwig's Copyvio Detector 197:Radioactive nanoparticle 164:A bagel and cream cheese 41:the article's talk page 316:how about "pervaded"? 173:bagel and cream cheese 135:Bagel and cream cheese 109:A Simple Word Counter 89:Reviewer instructions 296:working for quality 114:Reviewers' template 346: 270:WP:FURTHERREADING 214: 185: 132: 131: 380: 344: 338: 315: 312:Northamerica1000 293: 281: 224: 207:Northamerica1000 204: 180: 162: 72: 56:The result was: 34: 388: 387: 383: 382: 381: 379: 378: 377: 363: 362: 361: 340: 309: 277: 167: 166: 165: 155: 153: 149:Article history 137: 128: 104:Character count 69: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 386: 384: 376: 375: 365: 364: 360: 359: 358: 357: 356: 355: 354: 353: 352: 351: 350: 349: 348: 347: 284: 283: 236: 235: 202: 201: 200: 199: 187: 186: 163: 157: 156: 152: 151: 146: 144:Back to T:TDYK 140: 138: 136: 133: 130: 129: 127: 126: 121: 116: 111: 106: 101: 96: 91: 86: 80: 77: 76: 54: 53: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 385: 374: 371: 370: 368: 343: 342:North America 337: 336: 334: 330: 326: 325: 323: 319: 313: 308: 307: 305: 301: 297: 292: 288: 287: 286: 285: 280: 279:North America 275: 271: 267: 263: 258: 254: 250: 249: 247: 243: 238: 237: 233: 229: 223: 219: 218: 217: 216: 215: 212: 208: 198: 194: 191: 190: 189: 188: 183: 178: 175: 174: 170:... that the 169: 168: 161: 150: 147: 145: 142: 141: 134: 125: 122: 120: 117: 115: 112: 110: 107: 105: 102: 100: 97: 95: 92: 90: 87: 85: 82: 81: 79: 78: 73: 70: 67: 63: 59: 52: 50: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 329:Gerda Arendt 300:Gerda Arendt 242:Gerda Arendt 240:not "is". -- 228:Gerda Arendt 203: 192: 176: 171: 57: 55: 48: 31: 28: 298: ;) -- 205:Created by 124:Hook length 75:DYK toolbox 266:WP:SEEALSO 257:the source 177:(pictured) 62:Cwmhiraeth 253:WP:DYKNOT 181:(Source: 99:QPQ check 84:DYK check 367:Category 193:Reviewed 58:promoted 318:Yoninah 16:< 333:talk 322:talk 304:talk 274:diff 262:diff 246:talk 232:talk 211:talk 66:talk 60:by 43:or 369:: 195:: 139:( 39:, 331:( 320:( 314:: 310:@ 302:( 244:( 230:( 209:( 184:) 154:) 64:( 51:.

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