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Thanks for finding those sources, can you add them to article as elinks? They will be useful for further expansion, but I think this start-class article is good enough for a DYK. -(DYKs don't have to be comprehensive and use all available
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as well. The article also still needs more up-to-date statistics, if they're to be cited. I think these issues should be addressed, but that's just me. Perhaps Bluemoonset or someone more experienced at DYK than I could comment. —
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How long have you been on Knowledge (XXG)? Seriously. DYKs must follow Knowledge (XXG) policy and guidelines in general (although not to the same degree as FAs), and thus they need to follow
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All sources in the article are from the FBI or those closely related (the author of the book is also a former fibbie and currently works closely with them), and it would be helpful to have
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Nominator has not added secondary sources in three weeks and the article consists almost entirely of primary sources. This is not main page material. — 
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Close it, I don't care enough about this subject to devote more time for improving it, and you are right, the consensus is against me. Let's move on. --
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I'm afraid I can't agree, there are many secondary sources. For instance, a couple quick Google/Google Scholar searches reveal a substantial number.
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And here you have it: "primary sources are permitted if used carefully". I believe I have used them carefully; hence all is in order. --
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of receiving more than 300,000 complaints, substantially different than the 2002 stats of 75,000 cited in the article. —
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While I agree with the issues raised, as far as I can tell there are no other, more reliable sources on the subject. --
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Please show me where the DYK guidelines require secondary sources. --
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And you completely ignored the part of that sentence where it says "
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Good to go, although I would like to see it assessed.--
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Template:Did you know nominations
this nomination's talk page
the article's talk page
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Did you know
Crisco 1492
talk
Back to T:TDYK
Article history
FBI Cyber Division
cyber crime
DarkMarket
Saleh Mosque
Piotrus
talk

Sturmvogel 66
talk

secondary sources
2011 stats
Sctechlaw
talk
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
reply here
ArsTechnica
legal cases
Sctechlaw
talk
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
reply here

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