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Have we now established that Poles can't be relied upon to differentiate between
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It seems to me this was already approved a couple of times and then a ton of minutia intervened to make that unclear. I am approving it now based on the above 2 reviews that indicated approval, and the fact that I share the opinion of Kiefer.Wolfowitz that there are enough citations, and that the
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Please assume good faith, Marek. On your talk page (above the comment I was adding) I noticed the rather fantastic title "Feeder of lice" and, somewhat unsurprisingly, was intrigued. Hence me here. (Oh, and you deleted a "" because it wasn't "in the source ". It wasn't the ref you added that I was
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I'm sorry but Malick78's comments here constitute stalking and harassment. I've had several arguments with him before, usually about his blase attitude to WP:BLP, sourcing ORish articles via "stuff I just found on the internets" (blogs, random web pages, etc), semi hoax-y edits, and other frequent
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Article reads as neutral enough to me. Not well versed on the subject though so could be reading it that way. The Polish language and book sources support text. I've read and reread the paragraph about this. The entire section isn't referenced properly and the wording is not entirely clear. The
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Oh, and the first hook suggested seems to present the Nazis as being especially cruel for engaging in feeding humans to lice. They did a multitude of bad things, but here they just continued what was already being done by Polish researchers. Thus the first hook is rather tricking the reader into
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This is getting ridiculous. College professors who were internationally leading researchers were with other Poles targeted for extermination, and in fact many were massacred directly, rather than starving slowly as "subhumans". Some were able to survive by working as lice feeders. This is very
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If some one wants to move it to the holding area knowing it is not fully sourced, they can. I'm personally not going to tick off on on it as my understanding is for DYK, the article needs to be completely sourced. You may tick off on it if you feel comfortable with the sourcing passing the
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In my experience, we don't require cites for every sentence, but each paragraph is necessary, and currently there are two cites needed in the article. They should be addressed before the article is promoted. I hope this will happen soon, it would be a shame to see this fail.
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And JFFK, no the Nazis didn't "just continue" "what was already being done by Polish researchers" - Nazis killed people by infecting them with typhus. Weigl saved people by hiring them in his institute. To compare the work and life of one of the
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To be comprehensive, the article should be more about the profession than the research. It may not be very balanced now, but it is still well beyond the stub, and such balance is not required for a DYK. I don't see a problem here...
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Polish researchers used human test subjects as feeders of lice?"? See the comparison? To choose the Nazi option suggests it was their idea. It wasn't. Please read my comments carefully in future, it'll be more productive that way.
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The comments above are not constructive - if the Polish wikipedia article sucks how is that proof that the
English article must suck too? - and are made in complete bad faith. These kinds of actions are becoming a pattern for
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I suggest you calm down a bit. I'm not trolling - why would editors like Kiefer ask for clarification in the same way if I hadn't made a valid point? You seem to be making bad faith accusations to avoid answering the main
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might be punchier and maybe draw more curious readers in? (I've also added a space to 1c). I think the louse image would make more impact on the front page than a relatively non-descript non-talking-head, though.
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Holocaust, because it was not the war they were trying to avoid, but the Holocaust. I kept the rest of this version because it is the one that hooked me.--
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