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Sorry, but whatever else happens, the second part of the hook is not acceptable. The "cultural bridge" is metaphorical to begin with, and stating as a fact that it has been built is decidedly non-neutral: it promotes the project by stating an aim as a fact. The silver lining is that the hook won't be
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of the article should stand, and I am a bit wary of moving the goalposts because we ourselves are involved with it. In other words, the article needs to be trimmed to be less promotional and less interested in the people who work on and train for the project (no calendar information, please). As for
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I've deleted two references from July 28th that contained material found in other sources, and added five new references. I've beefed up the existing sections (except for the lead) and added a new section (Legacy). I'm sorry, try as I might, I was unable to find newspaper articles (or other reliable
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contains the kind of optimistic writing one finds in local newspapers that have an inherent interest in promoting the subject talking about--"As
Gibraltar is home to a variety of communities who routinely speak English, Spanish, Arabic, Hindi and Hebrew - the research and writing of the hundreds of
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The enthusiasm and conviction radiating from both the Min. for
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I'm sorry. I'm not sure what standards are being utilized here. I just became a
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are, again, examples from a local press announcing events and promoting them at the same time--there's nothing wrong with doing that, but there is something wrong with using such sources to establish the notability of a topic, in this case, training sessions. That applies to
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so long anymore. There's something else: in my opinion, the sourcing isn't really up to par, esp. not if this frontpage article is to be representative of the best and newest stuff we have to offer (sorry, WMF): the sources are all very local and very internetty.
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is an abbreviated version of the content. They should not be cited as if they are three separate sources. IMO, the government press release probably is the original item and the other two sources republished it -- if so, consolidate these into a single reference
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as well, and the remark that there were plans for someone to return later is not of encyclopedic value--if the coming of these people was encyclopedically relevant in the first place. Yes, those UK Wikipedians get around, but that's not really
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Gibraltarpedia will be rooted in multilingualism", which is wishful thinking at best, the idea that all these linguistic communities will participate fully and equally in one (overwhelmingly English-language, see
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I found the article a bit thin on informational content. It's mostly about the announcements of the project. Has there been any reporting more recently on progress in building
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are personnel entries on the website of the museum that supports the project. The entire section on "Training" should be cut; such information isn't very encyclopedic in the first place, and
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Other sources are also of this nature, as noted by Drmies below. Because the article requires significant work to meet the DYK standards, I am closing this as no consensus to promote.
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sources) for the month of August. Therefore, I wasn't able to include a section about the last two week's events. Please let me know whether we're headed in the right direction.
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