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Before the hamburger was invented, there was just the Hamburg steak, so obviously people ate it just like that. Even though there's the hamburger now, we should not equate it to be the same, just minus a bun. However, I do know that different people of different nationalities will think of "Hamburg
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I know the article are different. But I believe many readers would like to see the difference of the two steaks sourced in the Hamburg steak article so as to not refer to another page. Also, the hook is not fully sourced. I will add the tag in the article...
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Hook had a little grammar error. I fixed it. Can you please emphasize in the article how this differs from a Salisbery steak? Can you please cite the claim as well? From what it seems, it looks almost identical and this would make the reader confused.
435:(which has been present since the nom) states the difference quite clearly. Just a bit of history here: The Hamburg steak was invented earlier than the hamburger. I hope it is okay now. Cheers, ☯ 420:
Bonkers, you should try to find sources which contrast the hamburg steak with the hamburger. This would help tremendously in showing that this is generally considered a separate dish. — 
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Responding per a comment at my talk page. I am still unconvinced of the standalone notability of this piece of food. Unless sources which clearly differentiate between the two
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They come from different countries, and are served differently. Hamburger came from Hamburg Steak, and for one, the hamburger has buns whilst the latter does not. Thank you. ☯
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Full review needed, to check the abovementioned issues, and also to do the basic DYK checks such as length, newness, close paraphrasing, citations, etc.
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That's not saying its different, that's implying "it's a hamburger without the bun", which is why there's been some resistance here. — 
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The issue is that this could easily be merged into "Hamburger#History", with a statement that it is still eaten as a steak. — 
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Similar to the Salisbury steak, but different because of ingredients. Indentical to what? The Salisbury article reds far differently. ☯
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Oops, so I see. But isn't it "legal" now since I reviewed yours twice? Anyways, QPQ changed. Thanks for the heads up. ☯
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Why is there this article? It's not as if there is a big distinction like with Salisbury steak. There seems to be a
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to have a stand-alone article. This entry should be delisted and merged accordingly pending consensus.
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Assuming this is not going to be merged, I have tagged some material that needs clarification.
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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consider them different foods are added, I will be nominating this for merger. — 
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Don't know about Proudbolsahye's concern, but you've already claimed this QPQ in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Is there a provision in the rules for mandatory delisting? --
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The present hook ("... that while one tale has it that the
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