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Keep it short and sweet - there is no need to include mention of the film adaptation (and perhaps also the documentary) in the hook. It's usually the case that a "film adaptation" is based on a book. On a side note, the prose is slightly ambiguous in places and could do with a mild cleanup;
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Thanks Cunard. The article says "Of his crimes, Powers said 'It beat any cat house I was ever in'" and it is sourced to an encyclopedia. I've removed both the Amazon and Romeo Must Hang site from the article, meaning the original and ALT1 cannot be used.
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