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404:"Milošević's influential wife Mirjana Marković tried to curb Dačić's growing ambitions, and moved him to a small office in a Belgrade suburb in the mid-1990s" vs "Trying to curb Dacic's growing ambitions, Milosevic's influential wife Mirjana Markovic relegated him in the mid-1990s to a tiny office in a Belgrade suburb", or "assembled a team of young moderates to reform the party, while retaining some of the former figures to satisfy the elderly ex-communists" vs "assembled a team of young moderates to help overhaul the party, while retaining some of the old faces to appease the elderly ex-communist" from 99: 287: 378: 194: 178: 398: 162: 233: 310:
Article: "In 2006, upon becoming leader of the Party, Dačić said to a Serbian newspaper that he would have "no problem" taking up arms to fight for Kosovo as it was something he had done in the past." Source: "In 2006, after being named leader of the Socialist Party, Mr Dacic told a Serbian newspaper
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In any event, "I'm not sure" should never be grounds for an X. Maybe the ? or /, but not an X. As it is, DYKcheck says this is a 5x expansion to 11214 prose characters beginning August 6, four days before nomination, so it qualifies on those grounds. I'll let someone else check the hook and do
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Article: "EU has said that recognition of Kosovo is not a prerequisite for Serbia's accession, and it opposes any partition of Kosovo into separate Albanian and Serbian entities." Source: "While the EU has said that recognition of Kosovo is not a prerequisite for Serbia's accession, it opposes the
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fixed the hook language in the article for exactly this reason, and part of the reason I proposed a replacement hook was the derivative language of the original hook. I get the feeling the article creator was a non-native English speaker, so I can see why this might have happened, but we do still
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alone has many instances, which Duplication Detector oddly failed to pick up doing its straight URL comparison, despite my having found a six-word identical phrase, but did once the texts were copied into external files and compared that way. Two examples from the "Status of Kosovo"
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Article: "Serbia earned EU candidate status under Tadić's government, and Dačić has pledged his determination to begin accession talks, and has said"; Source: "Serbia earned EU candidate status and Mr Dacic has pledged his determination to begin accession talks. He also said
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Article: "the nickname "Little Sloba" after his mentor, though he is not the only Socialist politicians with the nickname"; Source: "the nickname "Little Sloba" - although he is not the only Socialist politician to be labelled in this way".
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takes INSERT POSITION HERE? They're either basically campaign ads or unsurprising (all politicians take positions on all sorts of things) and should be avoided unless they're
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believes the Nazi Party should admit Jews as members?" ... that sort of thing). So I'm glad the article has been expanded again as it provided material for a better hook:
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Alright then, if the expansion checks out, I don't see any other problems. Except the rather dull hook. I dislike hooks of the variety: "... that
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The BBC source was not the only one with issues; random checks of 4 English-language sources found problems with all. Examples:
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The article has major problems. Aside from the extensive use of bare refs, which is not allowed under DYK guidelines (
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that he would have "no problem" with taking up arms to fight for Kosovo as it was something he had done in the past."
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The author has added about 7kb to the wikipage since Daniel Case's initial review at 06:23h (UTC) earlier today. --
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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I was about to do the review, but then I realized that Daniel is using this review credit for
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There have been edits towards rectifying the issues in the past week. — 
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Some close paraphrasing still remains from that same source. Two more examples:
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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the usual sourcing and close paraphrasing checks on the article itself.
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division of the new state into separate Serbian and Albanian entities".
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There were similar problems with other material from this source.
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I have taken care of bare urls and close paraphrasing.--
213:. So I'll stop and let Daniel resume and take over. -- 87: 259:: ... that although new Serbian prime minister 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 165:I'm not sure this was adequately expanded. 155:). Self nom at 19:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC) 268:, has been nicknamed "Little Sloba" after 448:Failed DYK nominations from August 2012 7: 24: 416:FN18 is dead and can't be checked 18:Template:Did you know nominations 431:) 12:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC) 396: 376: 285: 231: 192: 176: 160: 97: 68:) 02:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC) 389:) 09:06, 8 September 2012 (UTC) 371:) 20:45, 3 September 2012 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify this page. 352:20:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC) 324:) 21:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC) 206:) 21:31, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 189:) 20:20, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 173:) 06:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 1: 340:) 15:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC) 280:) 16:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC) 221:) 22:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 115:, the new Prime Minister of 45:Knowledge talk:Did you know 37:this nomination's talk page 464: 41:the article's talk page 246:surprising ("... that 147:Created/expanded by 123:, and proclaimed a 121:President Milošević 70:Close paraphrasing 270:Slobodan Milošević 350: 156: 139:Ivan Strez Balšić 455: 400: 380: 348: 332:have to fix it. 289: 235: 196: 180: 164: 146: 101: 60:by  —  56:The result was: 34: 463: 462: 458: 457: 456: 454: 453: 452: 438: 437: 436: 103: 94: 92: 88:Article history 76: 69: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 461: 459: 451: 450: 440: 439: 435: 434: 433: 432: 417: 414: 408: 394: 393: 392: 391: 390: 373: 372: 360: 343: 342: 341: 314: 313: 312: 308: 301: 300: 282: 281: 229: 228: 227: 226: 225: 224: 223: 222: 144: 143: 142: 141: 129: 128: 95: 91: 90: 85: 83:Back to T:TDYK 79: 77: 75: 72: 54: 53: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 460: 449: 446: 445: 443: 430: 426: 422: 418: 415: 413: 409: 407: 403: 402: 399: 395: 388: 384: 379: 375: 374: 370: 366: 361: 357: 356: 354: 353: 351: 344: 339: 335: 330: 326: 325: 323: 319: 315: 309: 305: 304: 303: 302: 297: 293: 288: 284: 283: 279: 275: 271: 267: 264: 263: 258: 255: 254: 253: 251: 250: 245: 241: 240: 234: 220: 216: 212: 208: 207: 205: 201: 195: 191: 190: 188: 184: 179: 175: 174: 172: 168: 163: 159: 158: 157: 154: 150: 140: 136: 133: 132: 131: 130: 126: 122: 118: 114: 111: 110: 105: 104: 102: 100: 89: 86: 84: 81: 80: 73: 71: 67: 63: 59: 52: 50: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 328: 265: 260: 256: 249:Politician Y 248: 247: 243: 239:Politician X 238: 237: 230: 211:his nom here 145: 134: 112: 107: 96: 57: 55: 48: 31: 28: 383:Crisco 1492 365:BlueMoonset 334:Daniel Case 318:BlueMoonset 296:This source 274:Daniel Case 262:Ivica Dačić 200:BlueMoonset 167:Daniel Case 125:pro-EU path 109:Ivica Dačić 74:Ivica Dačić 62:Crisco 1492 425:Nikkimaria 359:recently:" 266:(pictured) 113:(pictured) 106:... that 442:Category 299:section: 292:WP:DYKSG 135:Reviewed 58:rejected 327:Hmm. I 244:really 215:PFHLai 183:PFHLai 149:Zoupan 117:Serbia 349:oupan 16:< 429:talk 421:here 412:here 406:here 387:talk 369:talk 338:talk 322:talk 278:talk 257:ALT1 219:talk 204:talk 187:talk 171:talk 153:talk 66:talk 329:had 43:or 444:: 423:. 137:: 78:( 39:, 427:( 385:( 367:( 347:Z 336:( 320:( 276:( 217:( 202:( 185:( 169:( 151:( 127:? 93:) 64:( 51:.

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