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I reviewed this article as it was nominated concurrently for good article status. If it helps the hook fact is correctly cited to a book (Legends of Palestine), although it is pretty darn close to a copy violation in the article. Also the nominator is currently blocked for two weeks and the article
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When I read the article and compared it with the sources, I was struck by the similarity of content with the principal source, The Jewish Encyclopedia article about Saragossi. I understand that this is a PD source, but I don't believe that DYK should feature content that is largely copied from PD
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It is all very well harbouring personal misgivings about DYK's based on PD material, but is this stated anywhere in the rules? If not, there should be no reason to hold this nom back.
206:"Once R. Saragossi went to visit the tomb of R. Judah bar Ilai. When he came, there appeared to him Elijah the prophet. He bought the spot and asked his pupils to bury him there." 344:
Hurray for Victuallers! The article looks OK now. I did change "paid money" to "offered money", since the article and sources don't seem to document that he actually paid up. --
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and recut this article so that it now has two additional refs and does not contain any sentences or long phrases from the cited sources. (Its also over 1,000 bytes larger)
370: 222:"In accordance with his wish, Saragossi was buried adjacent to the tomb of Judah bar Ilai, the site where he experienced a revelation of the prophet Elijah". 36: 214:"Following a revelation of the prophet Elijah at the tomb of Judah bar Ilai, he purchased a plot close by and asked to be buried there." 17: 44: 77: 47:), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page. 252:
sources. Also, if a PD source is used in this fashion, the article ought to be flagged to indicate this. --
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Is that really a problem? Anyway, I have revised it to:
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If you are after an example how to flag a PD source,
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