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358:, but rather what the particular citation (now ref 19) is being used to support. The article claims that the video was released on July 18, and cites that reffed post there as proof. But the post says nothing about the release date of the video, it merely includes the video in a post dated July 18. The video could have been released the day before, several days before, that day, or some other circumstance: we don't know, and the short squib doesn't say. This is PFLai's point, and you need to address it directly. There were also concerns about PopCrush, which I've found to print rumors as fact on occasion, but as a description of a video that's included in the post, it may be overwritten (for example, "possessed"), but I think it's an okay source. The use of the word "acknowledged" in the article, however, is not: please use something neutral, like "wrote", or better yet, recast the sentence. 174: 462:
with the rest of the article. There is a bit of over-linking, but this should not be a show-stopper. About the hook, I must say I didn't know that the word "channel" can be used this way in formal English. To me, it's a little slangy/chatty. If it's good enough for BlueMoonset and it's what the dictionary says, I am not going to (I cannot, really) stand in the way. I would give the green tick to the original hook with a minor revision:
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don't think it's a good idea to use for DYK. Furthermore, I am not sure if the websites Rap-Up.com or PopCrush.com are considered reliable sources. Particularly, I don't think Ref.#18 is solid enough as a source for the July 18th online premiere date. Also, while Ref.#19 indeed uses the word "channel", I have a hard time accepting that this blog-ish music site is appropriate to support a statement that "
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Article expansion is long enough and recent enough. No neutrality or BLP concerns. Random googling of various sentences indicated no concerns related to copyright violations or plagiarism in the article. Refs in proper format. However, the suggested pic is not in the article and not from the video. I
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Thank you, Lil-unique No.1, for joining the discussion. While Rap-Up the publication itself is a reliable source, I am not sure if Ref.18 is used appropriately, at least as a reliable source in support for the release date. All dates on the webpage are, as far as I can see, date&time-stamps for
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Glad to have BlueMoonset helping to keep the process going. The new footnote using the Vevo page itself as ref for the release date is good. The footnote for the RapUp.com page is still there, but I have moved it up a bit to support the first half of the same sentence. For DYK purposes, I am happy
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Regarding the "channel" issue, I took it to have a different meaning, which I've confirmed at dictionary.com under the Collins World Dictionary definitions: "to exhibit the traits of (another person) in one’s actions". That person frequently isn't dead: I've heard of actors channeling
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Sorry I reply a little bit late. I think I resolved the issues that were present in the first paragraph. You can check in the history. Btw, for "channeling" I added the word in quotes, cause actually that's what the reviewer from PopCrush wrote. Is it fine now? —
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characterizations, and not merely in parodies or impersonations/mimics. It can be attitude, movement, expression... but it's more like trying to be the person, almost emulation but from the inside out. (At least, that's the sense I've gotten from its usage.)
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is fine (although it shouldn't be necessary since the alterations to the original hook are so minor to make ALT2), and striking the earlier, unapproved hooks to avoid confusion. Thanks, everyone!
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it shouild be considered good enough for DYK. It is an industry published magazine though now it is mainly website based and has a relatively large presence in industry.
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Just noticed that Tomica had never gotten a talk-page notification about these various issues. I'm inserting one now.
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posted comments. And about ALT1, I must confess that I really don't understand what Ne-Yo was talking about. --
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often recieves exclusive information, has exclusive interviews and is invited to album release parties. —
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cause the Knowledge policy recognized it as a reliable source. I have used it the featured article "
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Thanks for notifying me. I really don't see the problem with using
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said "if taken care of the right way, could help the world!"
332:" that I wrote, and nobody complaint about it on its FAC. — 82: 471:Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) 264:Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) 105:Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) 69:Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 548:Passed DYK nominations from August 2012 261:- ... that when speaking of his song " 7: 468::... that in the music video for " 24: 495:) 00:22, 21 September 2012 (UTC) 400:) 18:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC) 102:... that in the music video for " 18:Template:Did you know nominations 515:) 03:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC) 498: 456: 366:) 18:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC) 315:) 17:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC) 191: 172: 164:) at 13:51, 10 August 2012 (UTC) 92: 503:Looks great. Reconfirming that 292:) 21:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC) 209:) 14:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC) 188:) 23:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify this page. 421:11:33, 20 September 2012 (UTC) 347:17:32, 19 September 2012 (UTC) 64:15:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC) 1: 252:13:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC) 216:Can I make an interjection? 45:Knowledge talk:Did you know 37:this nomination's talk page 564: 41:the article's talk page 140:Created/expanded by 354:The question is not 226:WP:Featured articles 487:Hope this helps. -- 482:in his dance moves? 474:", American singer 119:in his dance moves? 108:", American singer 178: In progress 165: 156:). Nominated by 555: 502: 460: 419: 414: 413: 345: 340: 339: 246: 243: 239: 222:WP:Good articles 195: 176: 139: 96: 56:The result was: 34: 563: 562: 558: 557: 556: 554: 553: 552: 538: 537: 536: 480:Michael Jackson 417: 409: 408: 343: 335: 334: 241: 237: 234: 114:Michael Jackson 98: 89: 87: 83:Article history 71: 65: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 561: 559: 551: 550: 540: 539: 535: 534: 533: 532: 531: 530: 529: 528: 527: 526: 525: 524: 523: 522: 521: 520: 519: 518: 517: 516: 485: 484: 483: 437: 436: 435: 434: 433: 432: 431: 430: 429: 428: 427: 426: 425: 424: 423: 422: 378: 377: 376: 375: 374: 373: 372: 371: 370: 369: 368: 367: 349: 348: 317: 316: 298: 297: 296: 295: 294: 293: 276: 275: 274: 273: 255: 254: 253: 211: 210: 189: 137: 136: 135: 134: 122: 121: 112:channels late 90: 86: 85: 80: 78:Back to T:TDYK 74: 72: 70: 67: 54: 53: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 560: 549: 546: 545: 543: 514: 510: 506: 501: 497: 496: 494: 490: 486: 481: 477: 473: 472: 467: 464: 463: 459: 455: 454: 453: 452: 451: 450: 449: 448: 447: 446: 445: 444: 443: 442: 441: 440: 439: 438: 420: 415: 412: 404: 403: 402: 401: 399: 395: 390: 389: 388: 387: 386: 385: 384: 383: 382: 381: 380: 379: 365: 361: 357: 353: 352: 351: 350: 346: 341: 338: 331: 327: 326: 321: 320: 319: 318: 314: 310: 306: 305: 304: 303: 302: 301: 300: 299: 291: 287: 282: 281: 280: 279: 278: 277: 272: 270: 266: 265: 260: 256: 251: 250: 247: 245: 231: 227: 223: 219: 215: 214: 213: 212: 208: 204: 200: 194: 190: 187: 183: 179: 175: 170: 169: 168: 167: 166: 163: 159: 155: 151: 147: 143: 133: 129: 126: 125: 124: 123: 120: 118: 115: 111: 107: 106: 100: 99: 97: 95: 84: 81: 79: 76: 75: 68: 66: 63: 59: 52: 50: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 504: 469: 465: 410: 355: 336: 323: 262: 258: 257: 249: 235: 229: 177: 138: 132:Regan Lamble 127: 116: 103: 101: 91: 57: 55: 48: 31: 28: 509:BlueMoonset 478:"channels" 394:BlueMoonset 360:BlueMoonset 309:BlueMoonset 150:Lil-unique1 199:channeling 117:(pictured) 542:Category 128:Reviewed 62:Bruce1ee 58:promoted 171:Review 489:PFHLai 418:(talk) 411:Tomica 356:Rap-Up 344:(talk) 337:Tomica 325:Rap-Up 286:PFHLai 240:niquℇ 230:Rap-Up 218:Rap-Up 203:PFHLai 182:PFHLai 180:... -- 158:Tomica 142:Tomica 476:Ne-Yo 330:Rehab 269:Ne-Yo 259:ALT 1 110:Ne-Yo 16:< 513:talk 505:ALT2 493:talk 466:ALT2 398:talk 364:talk 313:talk 290:talk 236:Lil_ 224:and 207:talk 186:talk 162:talk 154:talk 146:talk 60:by — 267:", 148:), 43:or 544:: 130:: 73:( 39:, 511:( 491:( 396:( 362:( 311:( 288:( 244:1 242:№ 238:℧ 205:( 184:( 160:( 152:( 144:( 88:) 51:.

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