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as her existance/name, country of origin, name of her husband, possibly year of death, I suppose can do that despite not speaking German. I honestly do not see the point of using redundant lower grade sources other than to formally satisfy a requirement. The article does not have the potential to reach GA status, but it is DYK material.
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It strikes me that if someone died over 600 years ago but is still being written about, they are clearly notable. The thesis also refers to a 16th century historian who studied her. However, I would want a clear description of the (one) currently cited source before this nom went any further (i.e. if
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I have been terribly busy lately, but I am not sure I have much to add anyway. If the source is deemed reliable, and DYK rules do not require more sources in this case, the situation is as simple as it can be. If it is necessary to add aditional (German-language) citations verifying basic facts such
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New enough and long enough. AGF on offline source in a language that I do not know (just a query: Why is the title of this book initially in German and then in Bosnian?). Article is well sourced, including on the hooks, although only having one source (page numbers/quotations for each inline would
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argued that this one biography is sufficient to establish notability. DYK rules apparently do not require more than one source in this case. The sources you suggest are mainly from the 19th century, some up to 175 years old. The one mentioning her death (from 1839) clashes with the 2014 paper, as
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I did a bunch of online searches, and I see your dilemma. However, since you have most of her biography down, I think you should access one or two of those German sources using Google Translate, to add a few more cites. The genealogy website doesn't look like a reliable source.
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who might sue or be damaged by inappropriate treatment. D12 has nothing whatsoever to do with notability, but countesses count anyway and she's plenty notable—as noted—in German. The lack of English information is just a side effect of some
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In my opinion, this is good to go. We should use the highest quality sources, not the ones that pad out the bibliography the most. In any case, several additional sources have now been added to the article.
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issue). I have no idea how to incorporate an 1839 casual mention of this woman alongside a full biography from 2014; it is bound to look absurd. I have expanded the reference per Sionk's suggestion, however.
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Furthermore "Maria von Bosnien: bosanska vojvotkinja - njemaÄŤka grofica" gives a lot of sources which can be reused if we search for them, but that will require some commitment.
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The first hook is great, but the article is sourced to only one source, which could lead to a question of notability. Isn't anything more written about her?
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it was published in an academic journal then what, where, when?). The ALT1 hook seems far better, less ambiguous and more interesting.
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but in German, which I don't speak. If I understand correctly, a single source is far from ideal but not an insurmountable issue.
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Almost, it's a conference paper. The source (in Bosnian, with an English abstract and summary) can be found
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about her dowry and the nugget of information that the king may have been the matchmaker in the wedding
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be good to go but leave me a note on my talk page if you need another set of eyes first. â€” 
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I would contend that a 15th century countess is a rather obscure topic as well. An English language
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you can add these sources which I found. that ought to take care of the sourcing problem.
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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What kind of source is being used here? This looks like a thesis.  â€” 
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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emphasises the need for peer review for a source to be reliable. â€” 
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in any way, shape, or form a reliable source. Per The Almightey Drill, this
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has traditionally been blamed for the downfall of her husband's
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to wonder whether that might lead to a question of notability.
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And did the conference paper go through peer review?
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help, but not essential for being on DYK). QPQ done.
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had children in her fifties and lived to be over 90?
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