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Reviewing the juicyness of the hook is part of the reviewing process as well. When there are two possible hooks which are equally catchy, it's definitely OK to allow the nominator the final say. But in this case, we have two hooks out of which one is clearly superior to the other one in the opinion
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It's not all that out of the ordinary for musicians to perform with fellow musicians. Where as receiving an honorary academic degree is far rarer, and thus more appropriate to use as a hook. How much "music" there is in any particular person is not a criterium for DYK.
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I tried to explain my POV above. I wrote the article under the impression of highly unusual concert experiences, not because someone was made honorary professor. But you will tell me that it is irrelevant ;)
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