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Friedrich Nietzsche section does not appear to be sourced. Could it be combined into something? All of the proposed hooks are interesting and I have no preference. For ALT0, ALT1 and ALT2, I cannot find the phrases "hidden reality", "hidden from science" or "the cosmos can be coaxed to respond using poetic signs" in the article to check citations. ALT3 is interesting and the image works with it, but I cannot find the phrase "hidden reality" in this article. While the hooks seem somewhat implied, it's difficult to see where each is cited. If I have missed something, please advise. Overall, this is an enjoyable read and a promising nomination and I look forward to seeing it on the main page.
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Mathews explaining that ontopoetics involves "unmasking of realities" (Seager). Since there is a word limit to the hook, I just used the term "hidden" instead of explaining about opening a world or a masked reality. Elsewhere, the article also cites Nitzsche's theory that elements of reality are hidden behind a veil produced by institutions and needs (Volker). The same is the case for "hidden from science". Mathews talked about masked realities not familiar to science. Please feel free to suggest a term if you are uncomfortable with the term "hidden" or "reality".
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You are right, regarding the use of "hidden reality" that it is implied or you can say it is a matter of composition/word-use. First, ontopoetics is all about discovering and perceiving reality, hence the use of "reality" in this context. Then, the referenced quote talks about ontopoetics opening a
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October 2 and nominated within seven days. Length is adequate. Article appears neutral in tone. No plagiarism issues detected. Both images used in the article are properly licensed on the commons, clear at a low resolution and both could be used with a hook. QPQ
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My main concern here is that the words in the hooks are not similar enough to the prose in the article to be able to say where the hooks are cited. Once those words are similar enough, I can approve this by assuming good faith on the book sources. I have no preference as to how you want to word it.
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is approved. It is interesting, properly mentioned and cited inline and I will AGF on the source. The citation question above is resolved, and the article now adheres to all other DYK criteria. I have struck all other hooks, but am willing to revisit them if any changes are made.
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