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Good work on sourcing all those important productions. I think "classified as an architectural monument" should be fine. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the interest of the hooks: while naturally
Germany had a great deal of rebuilding to do in the 40s and 50s, I thought it was interesting
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Performers and the Location: both of these need more sourcing (one per paragraph guideline), and there's something a bit odd about the first listed Performer, Fritz Lehmann. I'm not sure why he was music director from
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European theatre worked in Wuppertal at the beginning of their career. The original hook gives one (extremely well known) example. We can drop the section
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Both are longer, but I think the "stage covered with soil" adds extra punch (soil is different from dirt, so I went with the article's word; if "dirt" is appropriate, then "in dirt" can replace "with soil"). There may be ways to condense these, but I haven't figured out how yet. ALT2 is 197
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Cyberiad, learning ;) The 1970 version was on TV, the 1986 Wuppertal performance was the first staging, if I read the source right. - Classification: ideally it means "protected, deserving extra care", but in real life ... - What do you think of "classified as an
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Starting in the end: I will remove the red link (left from the German). When the paper may get an article, it will be found. - Your soil idea is great, and yes, soil, earth, to the roots, - not dirt. I don't like the article's topic as a genitive, so
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Premieres paragraph, especially as there is disagreement with other Knowledge pages. For example, the 1986 Cyberiad is, if you go to the composer's page, called
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Thank you for copy-editing. Just one item: The Rite of Spring was first performed in 1975, but kept for a long time as the 2009 picture shows, probably even today, - that's what I tried to say by "from 1975", it doesn't show now,
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Schauspielhaus was listed the same way, and did it prevent closing? No. Will it prevent demolition? We don't know yet. --
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