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standpoint (crime). With the handshake image, I am not totally certain about this, but the left chap looks more like the subject Ted Heaton, based on the infobox portrait. On the suggestion of a photo, if using any i'd have wanted it to be an action shot, but wasn't convinced by the quality or writings on the photo if proposing this for a main page image.
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Interesting life, GA on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the ALT much better, giving him a place in time, and showing determination. I wonder why no pic, possibly the lead image, because the one of him fed during an attempt wouldn't show well so small? - I suggest a few things for the article
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I was more thinking that his notability and the basis for the article was predominantly due to his channel swimming attempts, which was widely reported at the time, rather than a self-proclaimed status (although he seemed locally notable for his swim training endeavours too). What do you think?
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Thanks for looking over this. I think personal life adds value in the lead (itself an overview of the entire article), but concur that the ordering of some elements could be enhanced. I don't think there is an issue with the expression "committed suicide" as it has no connotations from a legal
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The personal life section could be in a somewhat more chronological order: first father and brother, then wives. Again the phrase about the second wife's suicide reads strange to me: commit after swallowing? Really? Perhaps rephrase completely.
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If personal life in the lead at all (not needed if you ask me) please let the poor second wife first have children and then die. I don't like the phrase "commit suicide" - as if it was a crime.
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You beat me to this, as I was going to raise a DYK on this article soon too :) Not to worry, although i'd have probably been looking at going something along the lines of:
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99394172/the-merthyr-express-aberdare-and-east/
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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In the handshake image, please indicate (l.) who the left person is.
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made seven unsuccessful attempts during the early 1900s to swim the
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That's fine honestly. Any hooks available are good hooks.
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https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99273537/liverpool-echo/
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Ted Heaton
Liverpool
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99273537/liverpool-echo/
Template:Did you know nominations/Leicester City F.C.
Bungle
talk
Onegreatjoke
talk
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Ted Heaton
English channel
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99394172/the-merthyr-express-aberdare-and-east/
Bungle

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