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650:, for fixing the letter and your other edits. I'm inclined to leave the "better source needed" tag because a source is already there, and maybe someone who clicks on this article while it's on the main page can help here. The only thing I don't see is the ALT1 hook fact in footnote 1, which has been added to the lead. The source says nothing about anticolonialism or antifascism. Could you add citations that verify the hook fact? Thanks, 713: 284: 160: 488: 288:
a tag calling for a more reliable source. I'm not sure if I correctly understood what was written in the second (parenthetical) sentence under Reactions. Most of the sources seem reliable, except diseasedetectives.com. Footnotes 20 and 21 need to be formatted to remove all the redlinks. QPQ done. All images are freely licensed.
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5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written. No close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources; foreign language sources accepted AGF. I edited the article for English grammar and added a few "citation needed" tags to statements that need them, and someone else added
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The book is a famous theatrical play written by Ateneh Alemu about the story of Zerai Deres. I say "famous" because this book is present in many university libraries around the world, and it's also cited in many books; even if it's dramatized, probably some infos could be extract from this play (but
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About the "better sourced needed" tag, I've already answered the same question of Usernameunique: I can't get any better source actually about the father's death, but personally I guess that the forum source can be considered good because it cites other 5-6 informations that are good and confirmed
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CN fixed. About note #2 (better sourced needed) it's really not easy to find sources about Zerai Deres; btw I think that forum has good informations, sinces it cites 5-6 thinghs from an "old book" that are correct and confirmed by other refs (year and location of birth, location of death, family's
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Not quite sure what you mean by "not fighting his own battle". At the time, the division between Eritrea and Ethiopia was much less pronounced, artificially created by Italy, and perhaps even non-existent in Zerai's view as demonstrated in the major event in question. In my opinion, Eritrea as a
584:", recalled Asmara's editor, so disgusted by the presence of "natives", that they were often proud of being Italian subjects, so much that in Libya, Somalia and the recent wars against their motherland, natives had often protected them with their bodies, sometimes paying for their own lives. 615: 325:
Regarding the hook, both are ok, though I lean towards the first, shorter one. I think you need to make it clearer in the article that Zerai was not fighting his own battle, but was an Eritrean who became involved in the Ethiopian struggle against fascist Italy.
527:. Makes sense on the forum, and it's better than no source at all. (If you felt so inclined, you could always send a message to the user asking what the book is! But obviously feel no obligation.) Just awaiting Yoninah's input now. -- 392:
you know, it would be helpful to add a short section titled "Background" right before "Lion of Judah incident". Explain there how Eritrea and Ethiopia were connected, and why people were angry at Italian colonization.
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I actually prefer ALT1 which is better sourced and hints at the lionization. I have reduced the over-linking and the hook is only 102 characters compared to ALT0 which is admittedly shorter at 79 characters.
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I also added a "Who?" tag to which "Italian" is being talked about – the government? the authorities? There is also a tag calling for a better source in the first paragraph under Early life and education.
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village, merchant ship and statue saved by Derg), while the father's death is the only information that need better source, but I think this information is true. Maybe something could be found in
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Two paragraphs lack citations (added "citation needed" tags), could you address them? Also, any chance you can find a better source for the sentence which says "better source needed"?
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can you two give us a quick read through this bio as it relates to Zerai Deres' Eritrean heritage and Yoninah's concern above. 
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also by other sources. So, for this reason, I think it could be trusted. If you are not agree, please hide the sentence. --
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separate nation did not yet exist. I would venture to argue that he was indeed fighting for his own nation. 
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some famous personalities of the 1936-41 Ethiopian anti-fascist resistance movement, such as Zerai Derres
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I maybe too close to this as an Ethiopian. Let me ask two people with a more unbiased opinion.
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Thank you both. Offline hook refs AGF and cited inline. ALT1 is ready for the main page.
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I have removed the extra citation. The fact is cited in the Lionization section. 
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The Long Struggle of Eritrea for Independence and Constructive Peace
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I upgraded the article, so please copyedit it if you can. I found
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thank you very much for your copyedit. About your questions:
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is considered a national hero both in Eritrea and Ethiopia?
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Thank you. I will work with the original translator,
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Thank you. I will look at it when I have more time.
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Zerai Deres
Zerai Deres
Ministry of information of Eritrea
Zerai Deres
folk hero
antifascism
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The Long Struggle of Eritrea for Independence and Constructive Peace
Colonialism and National Identity
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