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to stop doing this, hurt feelings, time lost defending myself at WP:AN/I, & wasting time which I'd rather spend on upgrading articles; or (3) having a way to simply set an option, so I won't see that someone has one this on the category pages where this otherwise useful template appears, &
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Well, it's not like I was asking the template's fundamental behavior to be changed, only to supplement it with additional functionality which isn't particularly complex, hence my immediate editprot request. But, I'm not against giving time for discussion, if you think it might be necessary or
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I went through a while ago and tried to clean up the assessment categories to fix absent, duplicate and incorrectly-sorted categories, which cleaned out much of the dead wood. I expect it's gone to seed again though, it's an inherently messy structure. Remember that now there can only be
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classes it can only do it's job in a limited fashion. These two classes will of course only be displayed in the template if the corresponding categories exist, so the vast majority of transclusions will be unaffected by this change. It will, however, be of huge benefit to
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2020:, but let me know if you need help with this! At the same time you could think if there are any other classes which are not used (e.g. Image/Portal/Project). Then, when an unused class is used the banner will classify it as "unassessed". — Martin
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I may do that, but probably not right now... I don't feel like thinking on the best way to implement the override at the moment (what with my head swimming + just having had my mind blown by some amazing
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I am not sure this is a good idea. It can adversity affect many projects. In addition, can the code be made more efficient? The proposed version contains repetitions.
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will soon be empty. There's no problem here with regards to your project, though the general issue you have raised has already been discussed directly above.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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