Template talk:Infobox country/Archive 1

1517:. This template is meant only as an implementation of those guidelines. I reverted the format of the test template when your changes would conflict with that. And no, I am not attacking you personally, or at all, and no, the articles using this current version of the template are in fact quite stable and look very nice. Use of this template is increasing by a few per day - evidence that editors think so too. Let's not fight about whether we are or were fighting, just get on proposing changes, testing them, and implementing. I will help you at every step, if you'll trust that process. -- 1491:

instead of you two doing it yourselves? I guess none of the changes are so urgent that it would be impossible to wait some hours to have them tested. One would of course need to gather a couple of volunteers, preferably a balanced panel, which may prove difficult but not impossible. I don't know if this mode of operation is acceptable on wikipedia, or even doable. What do you think? (BTW if my meddling is upsetting please let me know and I'll try to find alternative channels for my neutrality...) --

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and “National Anthem” are of less importance than the other facts listed, they, consequently, should be in small font. Also, since many nations do not have national mottos, it seems silly to announce in large font “None”. Additionally, many countries have long mottos and anthems, that, in your larger font size, extend several lines, enlarging the table overall – which should be kept ‘lean’.

899:(post-Valium) Hello, Netoholic. I would advice you to change it back. It may look nice at first sight, but when you see further down the table, and you see the other sub-header information is aligned differently, it is a little disruptive in my opinion. I would like to see the leaders aligned to the left, just as the rest of the information in the table. Also, the 2052:, you basically get the properties of this template. Some properties that are important for some countries, are not "broad" enough for the general template. However, you may insert several properties in one, especially if they are thematically related. For example, if you would like both an independence day and a republic day, you could write it as follows: 2126:

I would suggest that the timezone field be handled like the established dates / leaders fied, as the current format isn't particularly suited for the majority of countires. Of the countries currently using the template (34), 22 of them have either "Not Used" or "Varies" for the DST. Also this would

1057:"National leaders", "Government leaders", "Heads of State/Government", ...throw out some more ideas. Let's all keep in mind that this Infobox will never, and should not try to, contain a complete representation of the country. We need it only to be used to summarize and compare/contrast countries. -- 802:

These constant changes – massive or not – are very confusing to editors who try to modify infoboxes in country articles, ending up with something completely unpredictable. In addition, it is difficult to follow the history of an article given that the current template is so different from what it was

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We should align all subtitle elements either to the left or to the right, but not have both coexist is a chaotic unprofessional way. I'm referring to the right aligned subentries under Political leadership, contrasted with the several left-aligned subentries under GDP, Independence, etc. So what's it

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will be able to go into that field, possibly leading to drift between articles. With so few "exceptions" like UK/Norway, is it worth it? In any case, this is so minor that, if accepted, we should perform this in the future along with other changes, so that articles only need to be touched once. --

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I've implemented a kludgy solution on Norway & UK for the time being. This is not about me being a "wikicop", or that your change is particularly a bad one. The point is that someone else may discover a problem with it, or have an even better solution. The idea behind proposing changes on this

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sub-articles. To be honest, I think Political leaders is very apt in all situation, even if there is an occasional slight problem with the connotation. If we can think of a more universal header, that's fine, but so far no one has made any suggestions. Other options might be... No header, "Leaders",

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Hi Cantus, I see that you’re obviously adamant that “National Motto” and “National Anthem” be in a larger font size, and I understand that this may well be for the sake of consistency. I, however, prefer that they be in small font for reasons of aesthetics and relevancy. Given that “National Motto”

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Hello. I was seriously looking for a 10:19 EPS file of the US flag, but all I found was a 7:12 from the US Army. If you could make a reaaaaally large US flag (say, 5,000 px in width), I could resize it in Photoshop to anti-aliasing it and save it as PNG and reupload it, no problem. I mean, neither

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and the fact that it is a wikilink in the template right now. I will be removing this link and updating all of the country templates (more than 30) is one sweep. I will proceed at the said time if nobody objects. I had already done this, but wikicop Netoholic reverted me arguing that I needed his

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Finally, welcome back to the Talk page. The leader name alignment solves more problems right now than it causes. I think it looks very nice to the eye, as well, and you're the only one I've heard complain about it. It greatly simplifies what is required in the articles - almost all countries have

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If you count me in, there have been others commenting, too, although I try to be as neutral as possible. (Even posted identical comments on both talk pages.) Would it be an alternative to let other editors test and implement you two's suggestions, and let others evaluate conflicting suggestions,

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I don't really see a lot of discussion going on here, only personal attacks from you towards me. The table is in an unstable state right now, creating great havoc to many articles. As you see nobody but you has commented on this topic yet, so changes will be very slow if you wait for community

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Is there any indication of how many countries have an official language and how many don't? For the US and Sweden, a footnote or other note could be use to indicate there is no official one. I dislike using "Major languages", because that is a matter for census-takers, and could lead to people

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Cantus, please stop reverting the change of font-size. What we need is a discussion and not a revert war. We should isntead try to reach a consensus. I personally prefer small like Cyberjunkie but Knowledge (XXG) is not an experiment in democracy and 2 against 1 isn't much of a majority. What

1782:. So yes, I am complaining because we have other changes to implement, and this one is dramatically less critical. Also, this template talk page is very likely on only a small number of talk pages. Why not make a short post on the WikiProject talk page pointing to the discussion here? -- 2076:

I would prefer it the infobox was more flexible to include portions which are specifically informative on a country. Also I have strong reservations on the timezone part. Many countries don't use DST (almost all in the tropics), so I feel some modifications should be made so that the term

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I'm trying to make a really small change, yet Netoholic keeps reverting me saying I don't have the support to make this change. Funny thing is nothing Netoholic changes seems to have any support. Administrators can make any changes they desire, but us regular users, need Talk support.

1644:"I don't want to see your editing rights restricted further than they have been in the past." You have the nerve to say this and then go to the Admin's board to denounce I have violated my revert parole on UK and demand I get blocked for a week. How hypocritical. — 1557:

Oy veh. FFS, stop buggering about. Cantus's changes were not major, though they do require a number of minor changes that he has said he will accomplish (and would not be the end of the world if they took a day or two to be done, no less). This is ridiculous.

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restricted, but that doesn't mean that I disagree about your current status. If you revert an article more than once in a day, you may be blocked for up to a week. I think that is fair considering your habit of getting into silly edit wars over minutae. --

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page in the first place when I made a vector flag, rasterized it to png format, and put it online a few weeks ago. I used the "old glory red" and "old glory blue" colors already (though i think i messed up the blue perhaps), but thought they looked somehow

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makes some tables excessively large, breaking the 300 pixel rule. Netoholic is using this code so that the leaders' titles and name are aligned, but at the expense of having the form of government make the table as long as is necessary to accomplish this.

1998:, down to subpixel accuracy. I think though that what's there now should do the ticket. Anyway, thanks for the research. I hope the flag i put up has okay proportions. If you or someone else wants to change the colors, I'd be fine with that. -- 2060:

I think this approach would work for India. With respect to Singapore, I'm not sure if one can omit fields as long as this template is used. If some fields are utterly inappropriate there is the option to create a country-specific template (like

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give the countries which span more that one time zone to list the time zones used (eg, USA could use EST,CST,MST,PST,etc instead of just giving a range). I didn't take an exact count but I think the "Census" field is also not used that much.

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And I had already accomplished that in five minutes, but it took Netoholic 5 seconds to unmade all the work I had done by reverting the 30+ pages I had updated. This project must touch him on a personal level. He is so possessive about it.

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head of state, head of government - the previous, more open-ended method was better. Together with the title and name, this will almost always force the right-hand column to wrap lines. Putting the titles in the left column worked very

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A possible work-around for other Infoboxes would be to make the link two separate fields, but here we couldn't leave one or two of the three (headofstate, headofcountry, headofgovernment) empty, as we need to for some countries.

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languages, but it's pretty obvious which language you would want to learn if you were going there. Instead the infobox now reads the unhelpful "Official language: none" with a small footer about which language dominates. The

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I agree that the link really should be for the entire coordinate, but I'm a bit hesitant to do so for an external link, planning to wait untill the Wiki special page mechanism was in place. But perhaps it is worth a try. --

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so you can compare with the estimated pop. and reworked the pop. and area categories, changed the order of items into, general, area, government, population, others. I updated all the affected countries using the template.

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putting in percentages or numbers of speakers (a direction which is bad and part of the reason "Religions" isn't part of the infobox). The infobox should ideally show what language the state/nation government works in. --

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There's no reason why I should delay this change any longer. As you say it is a minor change. Minor but important, because the template is currently broken, and that has to be fixed as soon as possible. So I

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where a political role of the head of state is prohibited by written law or by convention. I wonder if it wouldn't be enough to just let "President" and "Primeminister" stand without any particular heading?

561:'It looks better' is a really poor excuse, to tell you the truth. You have to have a consistent format and style. As a visitor I found this inconsistency highly distracting. I suggest we solve this now. — 216:

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Tomorrow at around this time I will be correcting a bug in the template which affects some pages (ie. Norway, UK). There is no way around this other than to change the master template. It deals with

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For many infobox rows, the "no break at white space" layout is brilliant. However, in some articles there are a couple of long rows that cause the table to expand inadvertently. See for example

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page (especially those that require hitting all the articles) is to reduce the rework and prevent conflict. Except for the sarcasm, the above note would have been good to see ahead of time.

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If the countrybox doesn't fit with the country, then it won't be used. I've just made a change to Template Infobox test. Plese see. To me it looks OK. I would accept that for Finland. :-) /

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The head of state/government seperation causes issues for countries like New Zealand, Australia, Canada which now don't have Governor-Generals (or the equivalent) listed in the infobox.

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Actually, it is three against one. Voting on changes is something that Cantus has himself used before, so the result should be acceptable. Discussion has not assuaged Cantus as yet.--

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There seems to be a problem with the flag and the coat of arms links under the images at the top of the table. The links seem to direct to ] and ] and the problem seems to be the

1847: 1595:. I really think you have some good ideas usually, but your tactics are terrible. I don't want to see your editing rights restricted further than they have been in the past. 982:, and changes should be discussed there first. That would slow down changes here and in the country articles. Alignment is not pivotal, but of course it shouldn't look ugly. -- 787:. Please read the lengthy discussion there so I wont need to repeat myself and respond here if necessary. I fail to see a reason for changing the order. Can you explain why? -- 1727:

All this being said, I think the change is a good one, though we may lose a little consistency without the somewhat restrictive nature of the present one. After your change,

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or something in that direction. If it is one person, the header would be OK, and if it is separate persons, it would be OK, too, even if one of them has no political power. --

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I think for the titles, it is better to "join" them with the leader names. It may be inconsistent with the GDP and other "raw number" subtitles, but it just looks better. --

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proceed with my change. This is a testament so that Netoholic doesn't revert me on grounds of not proposing this change in advance or not waiting sufficiently to make it. —

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Your poll is a tactic you've used before. I am not saying you can't edit, I am saying edit the test template, and then state your intended changes here. The table is in a

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I understand they are not aligned the same as other subheadings, I accept that and don't see a problem. Please see below for discussion on the section heading itself. --

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In the new design, you'll specify {{{commonname}}}, which will either be the normal name "commonname = Canada" or like "commonname = the Netherlands" (lowercase the). --

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The link to go in the "head of state" field just happens to be a redirect in most cases as only a few of the offices have yet articles written about them, most are just

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I would prefer it if there is no data in a field, the field should not be displayed. ie. If Largest city is left blank for Singapore, that line would not be rendered.

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Yes, although there would be no cell separation between them, which is why, IMHO has not been used. But I welcome your comments in that said header is inappropriate. —

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header is not at the top. I have attempted to fix this on a test page, without success. I still think this is a much better solution, which keeps the table at 300px.

784: 841:. You probably don't know how how bad it looks because you haven't seen how every sub-header information aligned to the right (GDP/pop/area) look. It is a disaster. 262: 2246:, the anthem and motto look the same size the "flag" and "coat of arms" look in the screenshot to the right. And that is awfully small for important information. — 1591:

Encouraging you to work better with your other editors is also a motivation of mine. You've gotten in trouble before for edit warring, and should try to take my

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National motto and anthem are 95% * 95%, not 95% as the rest of the text. This makes it smaller than the table text, yet not so small as using <small: -->

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fields such as capital and largest city are redundant. I need these fields to be removed in the Singapore page. (Would prefer if the talk was moved to the

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If we agree that the "political leadership" needs no title, we could combine the "Form of government" and the leader information into the same table row.

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Anyways, since I do not like to become embroiled in ‘revert wars’, I put up for vote/discussion this matter, so that there is not one sole determiner. --

391:, they have a president which is both head of state and head of government. When using this template, it leaves a row with two empty cells. Also look at 1945:

Sorry, but it was the best I could manage, given the very simple macro (or template) mechanism of current Knowledge (XXG). Hopefully it is not too bad:

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The thing is that this is an issue with all templates. With the current software it is impossible to not include fields if there is no data for them.

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I've seen this problem too. This is kind of frustrating, since I want that nifty edit link down in the bottom of an infobox, but I can't put it in. --

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Generally speaking, results of specific international studies shouldn't be included here. It is fine to include them at the end of the article under

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As far as I can tell, all fonts, aside from the headings, are in size 95%. And if there is a difference, it is certainly indistinguishable and not

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By the way, would it be possible to combine some of the above threads with this and the next one? The same subjects seem to repeat themselves. --

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authorization (??!) to make this change. I will be proceeding again tomorrow, so I'm letting you all know in advanced (to the three of you). —

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so that all the text is kept at the bottom. This way the leaders' titles and names are always aligned. The only problem with this is that the

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current revision which sees the leaders as one giant field in my opionion is ugly. It means that the field stands out and nothing lines up.

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B. Making coordinates usable as data, not just text. This opens up possibilities for one-click linking to various map resources, just like

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I had a short exchange on my talk page about this, and commented that if Kings are not political leaders, then why are they mention on the

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states that about half the countries have official languages. Personally I don't like the idea of having religion listed on the infobox.

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Yeah, shorten the information, or move the extra bits to a footnote. This is to describe the primary system of government, as found in

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when introduced to the article. Sheer frustration may lead the template to be abandoned from many articles – I foresee massive flight

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I regret to say, but I think this is really unecessary for such a small piece of text which can be added manually on all occasions. —

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Okay now it looks much better. Some slight alignment issues if either the leader title or the leader names have any superscripts (ie

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guidelines for the infobox. I also see some other problems which radically reduce the application of this across all countries. --

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population census year, population census - Where is this data supposed to be pulled from? Sourcing this will be near-impossible.

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That is my worry as well. When this was first re-introduced, I tried to base it very closely on the existing Infobox standard at

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The only way you can truly compare a country with another is if you use the exact same parameters. You are doing the opposite. —

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has a lot of fields such as National Song and Republic Day which need to be taken into account here. Also in some places like

1315:'s doesn't help much. Of course one could try to shorten the information, but I look for other solutions first. Any ideas? -- 1893:

references now click-through to library and bookshop resources. In the first version, the only external ref available is to

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How are defunct countries handled in this infobox? Should a parallel infobox be created? This is in particular reference to

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religions - Superfluous, contentious. Religion is not a quality of a nation, it is a consequence of the people living there.

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It would be very helpful if the parties would settle the differences first, instead of engaging in the stupid revert war. --

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Two html-directives "big" will make it too big to many names. One would be enough, and in line with fontsize+1 as earlier.

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Agree, I think their ought to be a infobox standard that need s to be setteled on, by those not infoled in the edit war. --

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OK – done. (Sorry, hadn't checked the list. The list itself is a bit informal, but the section titles seem all right.) --

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Religion was added at some point, but it has since been deleted. I agree the languages section should be renamed, but to

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The part of the infobox on all countries which says "Official language" has bugged me for some times. Countries like

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that major changes be proposed before changing the template, since it affects so many articles. Make the change on

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xxx is "dms", "dm" or "d", depending on if you specify degrees/minutes/seconds, degrees/minutes or just degrees.

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standardization, not here. This template just implements the standard. Suggest this conversation be moved to

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The version on Test suffers from an additional problem of the MediaWiki version in use there. -- User:Docu

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aa, bb, cc, dd, ee, ff is the degrees, minutes, seconds listed one by one (4 items for "dm", and 2 for "d"

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I've made a template for handling graphical coordinates in a uniform manner (also providing a link), see

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Meta:MediaWiki 1.3 comments and bug reports#Links from template variables are broken.2Fbecome edit links

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good state right now, and discussion is progressing well among everyone else on this page, but you. --

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languages" bit goes, since it only applies to some countries, and can in addition be very misleading. —

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advice from you (and never have). I posted that as a testament in case you revert me again tomorrow. —

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Where needed, use separate parameters for link targets and link labels, with external link style, see

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Netoholic, I beg you I just BEG YOU, don't start a revert war. The leaders aligned to the right look

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header seems highly ambiguous. Many heads of state don't have executive powers, so they are hardly

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The "the" param is for country names like "The Netherlands", "The United Kingdom" etc. -- User:Docu

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Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Suggestion:_Template_for_geographic_coordinates

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I'm not against your proposal, which is a good idea, but the fact that you seem to have created

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I think the bug is the same as the one with the "as of 2002" links, both used to work in Test.

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Although it's not ideal, nothing is broken, so will you please calm down and wait a bit? --

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Please hold off adding this to any more articles. Some of your changes are inconsistent with

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set "timezone DST= not observed" and then set "utc offset DST= " to match "utc offset=". --

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There is currently another problem with redirects inside InfoBox: when writing for instance

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If it's true as you say that all text is in 95%, it means that Cantus's were in 0.95*0.95.

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proceed. Jdforrester and me agree. You do not. 2 to 1. I have support. I shall proceed. —

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I object to adding head of state and head of government entries for reasons stated at

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was the least ambiguous. What is exactly wrong using that? I welcome your comments. —

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It's not a problem with redirects, but with the pipe character. It's a known problem

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There is currently a problem with the way images are included in the template (pssee

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Should the font for "National Motto" and "National Anthem" be sized <small: -->

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does not appear in such infoboxes so the Time zone is displayed in a single line.

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Changes to what information is presented, or the row order, should be decided at

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It depends on what font, browser, OS you are using. For me, using <small: -->

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How do we deal with countries that don't operate daylight time like North Korea

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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But they ARE in a smaller size than the rest of the text in the table. (????) —

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Such as? What country does not have a head of state and head of government? —

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This wont work for optional fields (head of state etc. ) though. -- User:Docu

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PS: You tell me to edit the test page, yet you revert my edits even there! —

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Cool! Minor problem is that links in the form ] are edit links.-- User:Docu

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Since the opinions of those in the above discussion don't seem to persuade

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A. Ensure a coordinated appearance of coordinates, like it is for dates.

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more than one leader, meaning they'd have to code it like "] <br: -->

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Redundant with new design. Will now allow as many leaders as needed. --

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instead. I propose we should too. We might also think about including

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To be honest, I prefer neither option.... but this is a subject for

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is not good for such republics and constitutional monarchies with

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Do people think that this should be a field on the template?--

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does not have position information, making this hard to use.

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Well, not quite, it is an invisible link to the Main Page.--

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Two empty parameters seem to work, {{pl||}} gives nothing: "

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The point of the matter now is the width of the table. By

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Ease of entry is not an issue. The two main points are:

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is smaller than the regular font size but larger than

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yy is either SE,SW,NW,NE depending on which hemisphere

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I think the overall infobox layout should conform to

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