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129:. Comparing the useless information obtainable from a black hole to "burning an encyclopedia", Hawking later joked, "I gave John an encyclopedia of baseball, but maybe I should just have given him the ashes." Thorne, however, remained unconvinced of Hawking's proof and declined to contribute to the award. Hawking's argument that he solved the paradox has not yet been wholly accepted by the scientific community, and a consensus has not yet been reached that Hawking provided a strong enough argument that this is in fact what happens. 27: 41: 55: 121:
of microcausality, quantum mechanics would need to be rewritten. Preskill argued the opposite, that since quantum mechanics suggests that the information emitted by a black hole relates to information that fell in at an earlier time, the view of black holes given by general relativity must be
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While Hawking described the bet as having been made in 1975, the written bet itself—in Thorne's handwriting, with his and Hawking's signatures—bears witness signatures under the legend "Witnessed this tenth day of December 1974". Thorne confirmed this date on the 10 January 2018 episode of
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This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine
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independent of the initial state. Thus the total path integral is unitary and information is not lost in the formation and evaporation of black holes. The way the information gets out seems to be that a true event horizon never forms, just an apparent
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at the centre of a black hole could form a bridge to a "baby universe", into which the lost information could pass; such theories have been very popular in science fiction. But according to Hawking's new idea, presented at the 17th
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In 2004, Hawking announced that he was conceding the bet, and that he now believed that black hole horizons should fluctuate and leak information, in doing so providing Preskill with a copy of
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modified in some way. The winning side of the bet would receive an encyclopedia of their choice, "from which information can be retrieved at will".
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An older bet from 1974 – about the existence of black holes – was described by Hawking as an "insurance policy" of sorts:
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was a black hole. By now, I would say that we are about 95% certain, but the bet has yet to be settled.
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on the other, according to the document they signed 6 February 1997, as shown in Hawking's 2001 book
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to radiate, and lose information, the mass-energy and information carried by
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Hawking, S. W. (October 2005). "Information loss in black holes".
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must be "new", and must not originate from inside the black hole
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Wager over the solution to the black hole information paradox
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Index

Kip Thorne
Stephen Hawking
John Preskill
black hole information paradox
Kip Thorne
Stephen Hawking
John Preskill
The Universe in a Nutshell
general relativity
black holes
Hawking radiation
event horizon
quantum mechanics
singularity
International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation
Dublin
Euclidean
path integral
metrics
time slicing
unitary
analytically continued
Lorentzian
asymptotically
Private Eye
Penthouse
Cygnus X-1
Penthouse
Nova
PBS

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