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197:. It is clear on the recording that the reception the band received ranged from indifferent to hostile, the enmity between band and audience evident from Smith's introductory statement "The difference between you and us is that we have brains". Friction within the band is also apparent, with Smith apparently chastising one of the musicians during "No Xmas for John Quays" with "Will you fuckin' get it together instead of showing off". 208:"Nobody wanted to release it, because nobody played the sort of venues that you hear on it – places like Doncaster and Preston. The North was out of bounds; it might as well have been another country. We just pieced a load of tapes together. In the band's eyes it was commercial suicide releasing this dirge; they couldn't see the soul that lay behind it. That's musicians for you." 357: 352: 309: 304: 299: 271: 266: 395: 390: 385: 380: 375: 347: 342: 337: 294: 289: 261: 256: 251: 418:
reviewer Ned Raggett gave the album three stars, stating that it saw the band in "a hilariously aggressive mood", and delivering "some brilliant performances". Martin Longley, in a 1998 review, gave it three stars, calling it "a terse, brittle classic of cranky Mark E. Smith ranting". A 2002 review
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described the album as "Jagged, largely recitative and nearly oblivious to musical convention, Smith's witty repartee carries the show as the band lurches and grunts along noisily."
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gave the album a five star rating, calling the band "a living reminder of the failure of Punk and the almost solitary exponents of the directions in which it should have gone".
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The first of the band's many live and part-live albums, it was mostly recorded at gigs in the north of England, but the track "New Puritan" was recorded at
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gave the album a B rating, describing himself as "a sucker for the overall sound, maybe even the attitude".
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Rather than record themselves in front of a receptive home crowd, the Fall chose to use recordings made in
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as bonus tracks. It was reissued on vinyl in 2004 by Earmark, and in 2017 by Let Them Eat Vinyl.
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McCullough, Dave (1980) "Society's Scourge: The Fall 'Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never)'",
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and other less obvious settings; Side 1 of the album was recorded at a leisure centre near
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The album has been issued on CD several times, in 1992 by Dojo, in 1998 and 2004 by
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The album was released on 5 May 1980, the band's first release after signing to
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while the first two tracks on Side 2 are from a February 1980 gig in
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Track 10: home demo recording from Mark E. Smith's house in
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of the reissued album was given two stars by Marc Savlov in
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Tracks 1-6: recorded live at Bircoats Leisure Centre,
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The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country on the Click)
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Longley, Martin (1998) "The Fall - Totale's Turns",
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in 1980, spending a total of 31 weeks on the chart.
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Retrieved 6 March 2018 1064: 1062: 961: 959: 957: 740:"Jawbone and the Air-Rifle" (BBC Session) 200:Smith said of the album in his 2008 book 1023: 1021: 696: 599: 469: 892: 882:Paul Hanley – drums (tracks 12-15) 575:Smith, Yvonne Pawlett, Riley, Scanlon 229: 7: 1642:The Complete Peel Sessions 1978–2004 833:Session; recorded 16 September 1980 669:"New Puritan" (Home Demo recording) 1594:Touch Sensitive... Bootleg Box Set 1141:Totale's Turns (It's Now Or Never) 801:Track 9: studio outtake from the " 628:Smith, Mike Leigh, Scanlon, Hanley 155:Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) 130:Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) 62:27 October 1979 – 29 February 1980 24:Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) 14: 374: 336: 288: 250: 768:"New Face in Hell" (BBC Session) 393: 388: 383: 378: 373: 355: 350: 345: 340: 335: 307: 302: 297: 292: 287: 269: 264: 259: 254: 249: 1883:Rough Trade Records live albums 1635:50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong 1566:A Part of America Therein, 1981 1003:Buckley, Jonathan (ed.) 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Live album
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Genre
Post-punk
Label
Rough Trade
The Fall
Dragnet
Grotesque (After the Gramme)
live album
the Fall
Mark E. Smith
Fiery Jack
working men's clubs
Doncaster
Bradford
Rough Trade Records
AllMusic
The Austin Chronicle
Robert Christgau
Q
Sounds
Sounds
Robert Christgau
AllMusic
The Austin Chronicle
Trouser Press
Luke Haines
UK Independent Chart

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