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current system of sponsorship is much more vulnerable to (self)-censorship: obviously you want to keep large donors happy, and so when it comes to removing critical information from his article, you are consciously or unconsciously biased. Furthermore, much more dangerous than this self-censorship is the advent of
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Advertising is often insulting: to sell a car, they don't tell me its mileage, its price or its safety ratings; instead they play some nice music, show a happy family traveling through a pristine landscape, and tell me that I can get $ 2,000 cash back if I decide to buy soon. They scream in my face:
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We all know that this statement is false on its face, yet advertisers keep hammering it into our brains, into our subconsciouses, where our true decisions are made. This leads to a tremendous waste of resources as people keep buying useless crap, and it leads to unhappiness since the racing dogs can
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A company that negotiates a deal of the form "we will match every donation on that day and you will put our name and logo on the top of every page on your site" is not donating; it is purchasing prominent goodwill publicity on a top-12 website. This is brand advertising and needs to be rejected. If
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Knowledge (XXG) would hardly be where it is today had it accepted ads from day one. Many contributors wouldn't have contributed, and many donors wouldn't have donated. (If you go through the donation comments, you repeatedly find comments of the type "Keep
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We are here for one reason and one reason alone: to serve our readers. The readers do not come to us for ads; they want encyclopedic information, and quick. Advertising distracts, competes for their attention, annoys, makes them uncomfortable. "The 💕" -- that also means: free of distractions. It
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I don't see how that could happen. Most proposals have
Knowledge (XXG) subscribe to Google's Adsense program, and there the advertiser has no control over the actual placement of the ads. They pay Google and Google pays us, so the advertiser simply has no way to exert pressure on us. Indeed, our
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Partly because of the cheapening effect mentioned above, and partly because they don't want to contribute to advertisers' profits, many
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Right now, the encyclopedia is our product, and the readers are our customers, to whom the product is given for free. With advertising, the situation changes fundamentally: the readers become our product, the advertisers become our customers, and the product is sold to the customers. This is
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they truly want to match donations, they are more than welcome to do so, and we will certainly mention it somewhere, just like all other large donors are recognized. But they don't get to negotiate the time and manner of this recognition.
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drug-company-sponsored "self-help site" or for some book of the sort "How Yoga Cures Cancer: A Personal
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Advertising increases demand, and therefore increases prices, by elementary economics. Only those people who like
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product. Not engineering but marketing decides the fate of a product. Marketing however cannot influence how efficient and suitable a given product performs its task. It's perverse.
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