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When I asked the question, there was one oppose against the infobox and four supports, but the question was about the reasoning, not the numbers. The debatable statement "Arbitration findings and the wishes of principal editors govern the use of infoboxes in articles." was not questioned by any
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Arbitration findings and the wishes of principal editors govern the use of infoboxes in articles. If you want to win my "neutral" please say how you would close the discussion at
887:#2 empowering uninvolved admins to simply remove violations and ban further participation in a discussion with short blocks for violations would be far more efficacious 1076:#1 if the infobox had erroneous information, then it should have been cleaned up and if the infobox had technical errors, then the infobox should have been corrected 525:
in our work place. I would like us to talk first and, maybe, discuss them either on AN or among the Arbs. In most cases there really isn't a rush, I think, to block.
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If you want to know what I go for, or just compare what the candidates answered, stay here. For background - not needed but if you like - see
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for an analogy. If you want to win my "support", please - on top of #1 - suggest improvements to get from arbitration enforcement (
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9 seats are available to be filled, but Arbcom does not need all 9 to be filled. If you do not believe a candidate is suitable,
632: 357: 521:#2 I have always maintained that blocks and other punishments should be applied judiciously, that the law is only written to 1206: 611:#2 The real problem is elaborate bans that attempt to restrain editors with red tape, rather than clear guidance on policy 268: 238: 203: 168: 198: 860:#1 decent metadata that would be useful for the semantic web would require clean semantics and a limited vocabulary 364:. Both questions depart from a specific situation but look for something more general, about the candidates view on 908: 809:#1 At that point, I would close it as supporting the addition. There were no valid arguments against addition made. 361: 138: 943: 273: 158: 1003: 751: 577: 319: 218: 163: 952:#2 make sensible restrictions - where possible they should be enforced technically - descalate any sanctions 854: 188: 153: 133:
represent the thoughts of their authors. All individually written voter guides are eligible for inclusion.
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An editor has been blocked for a month in the name of arbitration enforcement for having said that
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Please stop adding infoboxes to articles in contravention of your Arbcom restriction
665:#2 adding another task to their plate will only delay timely resolution of conflicts 759:#2 often just the lesser evil (as compared to, say, not enforcing remedies at all) 1048:#2 most of the time, violations of remedies can be dealt with without blocks 293: 835:#1 The infobox be restored as the consensus favours restoring the infobox. 609:#1 The argument therefore applies to articles as well as the infoboxes 396:) to arbitration supervision, where such a thing would not happen. I 418:
The edit was unproblematic and actually made Knowledge (XXG) better.
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1078:#2 find the "punitive action" a bit harsh for a passing statement 950:#1 if I were closing it I would close it according to consensus 412: 336: 25: 638:#1 there's not enough participation to establish a consensus 640:#2 This is idiocy, but it is also standard ArbCom practice. 585:#2 more discussion is needed to reach a clearer consensus 1046:
isn't making this tip, from "no consensus" to "in favor"
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polite and reasonable, and trying to achieve a consensus
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