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Of course you can try to stop its deletion, I am just saying it is not needed. When you said on the discussin, with the non-notable ones should just go, what do you mean by non-notable ones. I only put characters that were major or recurring (they might have had 1 speaking role, but they have appeared more than that, and the cast for that character, even if in 1 episode, is still the voice actor of a character that appears a few times. CCH Pounder as Kadma, she appears in 10 episode, but she only was voiced in 3 episodes.
218:. I'd have redirected it there specifically but redirects to a tagged section don't seem to work. Hopefully the next time someone searches for "December 21 2012" (as people will, for the next six years, I suppose) they'll read the target article and not recreate the "December 21" etc one. Feel free to revert it to the speedy tagged version if you like! Cheers,
692:?..) And please, before deleting something, ask me or Angelofdeath275 on our talk pages: some things in the TE section just need to be rewritten so that the explanation will be more clear. And please, don't get angry when I don't understand something: it's already night where I live, so I'm a bit sleepy and slow... Also, the TE section has already been deleted
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I personally don't think that character pictures are needed. If you want pictures (which you would have to get yourself since I can't upload any on my computer) you should make a page of pictures. Yes, I know that is an extra W.I.T.C.H. page but I really don't care about pictures, so I am leaving all
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Why in the world did you put a deletion note on W.I.T.C.H. cast page? I am not exactly finished working on that article and if you think there is no point for this article, I have had many requests for this article and last time I checked, majority rules minority. I am not finished and will have more
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Sorry, you did not specify clearly. It the page gets deleted, it does not matter because I have saved it to Word and will just copy it back to the main page. Problem solved. Oh, and liked the
Miranda page, but I just thought it was not needed because..., well like you said, to much W.I.T.C.H. pages.
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Thanks for protecting my email address. Actually, there's no personal information in it, I created it specially for use on
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There aren't much scans from the original manga on the
Internet... and also, such things are usually stated somewhere at the end of the volumes, after the chapters, so these pages are rarely scanned (I believe Ichigo's age could be on the back cover of the first volume). We need to find some person
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Yep, and there are people who just change stuff without reading the info from other articles or talk pages. The stupidest edit is of course "Kirema Anima": they just see that the word is written like this, and change it, and delete the explanation, thinking that
Tokyopop's translation is correct...
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Well, I already know that, and I have not threatened anyone (or you using it as an example?). You have started all conversations on my talk page, so I would have to reply to you? How? Don't know you email adress (its not that I want to) so how do I contact you? I know about the history on them, but
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on Mott Street, the best hot & sour soup in town! I miss New York; Florida is quite a different culture! (This stuff is ok to leave, I've already identified myself as a
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We included that in the TE section because it is one of the things that confuse people. Ichigo's age explanation in her article got deleted several times, because some people still trust
Tokyopop's translations. And you can't imagine how many webpages I've seen with statements that the character's
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article, even though it has an explanation, too... you know why other people delete this thing. And if anything, the OR banner is there because of the "reborn" mistake, not because of this one. And you obviously did not read what
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Besides, I myself was confused by this mistake, too. I was looking at random TMM sites that say that she is 11 in the manga, and I thought that the creators of the anime changed the characters' ages for some reason... And then I found out that she is still in the seventh grade in the manga, and I
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I'll just waltz in...the TE section is composed if translation errors. Ichigo's age has to be an error. If she is described as 13 in both the
Japanese version of the manga and anime, why is she desribed as 11 in the English version of the manga? If she is 11 in 7h grade, she would have to skip a
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I hope you don't mind, but I noticed your userboxes that say you speak
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a translation error, as her age does not match her grade. If they messed up with "middle school" thing, it just indicates that they did not know about
Japanese school standards. The mistake can very easily be spotted by anyone. And there is a link to that "7th grade" article, where the ages are
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Ichigo can't be 11, because even in Tokyopop manga, she is described as a seventh grader, which means she is 12-13, not 11. In the first volume of the original manga, she is said to be in the first year of middle school, which is the equivalent of the seventh grade. In the anime, she is also
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I'm not relying only on fansubs, since I actually know a little Japanese, too. I made a note in the TE section, that the age was possibly changed on purpose, but since Tokyopop kept a refernce to her grade the same instead of changing it to match Ichigo's new age, it still can be count as a
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You told me to put it on the talk page, so I did. I have my own reasons for not showing them to the public and no they are not on Knowledge (XXG). I won't tell you why, but here is a hint (I am not joking)= my family made $ 11,000 in the mail today. My security must be secure because those
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find a pic... but seeing how I don't have even translated manga (the main reason for this being that I'm not American), I guess I can't be of any help... I'm trying to find something on the Internet, though. And if it was a mistake in the original manga, then Tokyopop didn't notice it.
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And if there is anything that is OR, it'll be soon or later deleted by admins (who are only concerned about the "ribbon/reborn" mistake), so you don't have to just delete it without real reason and call it silly just because you don't understand what we're talking about.
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that doesn't reveal that much. Actually, there is only one word in the discussion that could give away my identity. That is still one way. So how about we start pesterizing each other and have a brand new start as friends to each other when it comes to W.I.T.C.H. pages?
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Don't worry, this page is going to be the only page with the cast list. I have also supported its mergance with the main page, and the cast on the character page will be gone as they are about the characters, not the real world behind the characters. It just takes time.
147:? I made it clear in my summary I wasn't finished. I was trying to add some code in bits: for me it was a complicated edit. I needed some time to finish these. Look if you wish at the latest entry to the Tools section, and the talk. It was quite legitimate.
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O, so that's it! Ok, around Christmas I'll try to provide images of the characters from the animated series. (in my previous comment, I was simply confused if images from the comic books are suitable for the article on the animated series' characters)
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called "Parasite Aliens" in the Japanese version. I can't say about the manga, but in the anime, episode 4, Quiche does call this thing "Parasite Alien"... and in the article, it is said they have this name only in the English manga... should this be
680:...Seriously, I never thought that somebody can be confused by this... ^_^; And you mentioned the "chuu-ichi" thing from the anime... did you watch the original episodes without subtitles? Because fansubs translated this correctly, as "7th grade"...
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You probably know this already, but if there are multiple reference links to the same source, just give it a name: e.g. <ref name="Source"> ''Source.com''</ref> Then the next instance can be shorthanded to <ref name="Source" />.
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The TE section is also composed of mistakes made my Tokyopop and fans. Since it was mistake for Ichigo to be described as 11, fans have also made this mistake, causing debates. I've come across many fansites describe either as 11, 12 and 13.
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I do have my old talk pages stored, just not here and not in a place anybody but me could access. The only reason my T-borg conversations are still there I use them as resources. Don't ask me how (not trying to be rude there).
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manga and anime. Because of this, different theories appear: that the characters' ages were changed in the anime because the manga creators rewrote the story to adapt it for the anime version and such. Ichigo does not even
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The main article is mainly used to address the issues in the TE section. Plus, the main article is seen more by fans then any other article. Then the sections from the TE section are added to the appropiate articles.
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Sure I will. I am really busy so I can send you a list in January or whenever, but for your 2 examples, the answers are J is for Jewel is when Hay Lin and Eric met, and Walk This Way there is one mention of Wreck 55.
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which is not for user pages but for Knowledge (XXG) content. I happened to browse that list and noticed your user page, and I only removed the categories from it to keep it out of those lists. No harm meant!
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about the cast after the charts are done. So stop having a vendetta against me and lets work to together as friends. (No Joke)- Supreme Commander Full General Alexander Green of the royal Kernersville Army,
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subjects unrelated to the article are taboo. However, the last person to reply to you was wrong in saying there's no appropriate forum for your thread on Knowledge (XXG). If you had started the thread in
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ages are different in the manga and the anime, when it's actually not true. (Besides, it's just strange: if she is 11-12 in the 7th grade, wouldn't it mean that she started going to school at the age of
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belong here. Angelofdeath275 already stated it here. And this "being born before April" thing doesn't really work in the manga stories. I can give at least two examples from "Sailor Moon", if you wish.
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Second request. Apparently, once you finish your comments on a talk page, you're hitting the ] key several times to create a new paragraph, then typing four tildes for your signature. Would you mind
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understand where you're coming from. Thanks for the excellent answer, I get it! You can delete this whole section if you like. I'm happy to be editing with you, you are a very fine editor.
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I love the Chinatown where I used to live. I lived in NYC for fifteen years (Manhattan). When my brother was visiting me, he and I would always make a pilgrimage to his favorite restaurant,
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It'll be good to find a picture from the original manga that shows her age reference. She probably was introduced as a 12-year-old at the beginning of the manga, but it's still not 11.
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went: "OMG... how can she be 11 in the seventh grade? is she a genius or something?", and then I found the translation that confirmed her grade and understood that it was a mistake.
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I told you, it's not only the "middle school" thing. If Ichigo was 11-12 in the 7th grade, it would mean she started studying at the age of 5, which is just ridiculous. So it is
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Oh, I know what confused you... She says not "juuichi", she says "chuu-ichi", which means "first year (ichi) of the middle school (chuu)". So, her age (13) does match.
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Why did you revert my edit to this page? OK, the brackets were unbalanced, but the sensible thing to do would have been to correct that rather than unhelpfully revert--
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Calm down already, I removed the reference to her age long ago. ^_^;;; We did notice this, but it still doesn't affect the fact that one can't be 11 in the 7th grade.
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putting your signature on a separate line? A separate line lengthens the post (typically, by two lines) and is distracting (to some people, at least). Thanks. --
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I've looked at that translation, it says: "7th grade (first year of middle school by Japanese standards)". The Japanese do not count years of studying, like I did.
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I corrected some mistakes, the article looks better now. I will have to do some fact-checking, you can also (most of the episodes, if not all are uploaded on
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she's 12 either: she introduces herself as 13 from Episode 12, and even if she was still 12 before this episode, it is never mentioned.
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who has the Japanese manga, and can scan it for us. Also, such notes are usually written by hand and are kinda hard to read...
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described as a seventh grader, and as being 13 years old. The grade is the same, so there can't be any age difference.
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I once wrote about it at Tokyo Mew Mew discussion, but it's now archieved, so you may want to read this stuff, too...
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OKAY! (When I said start pesterizing, I meant stop).
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